Super necro. But i have some things to straighten out for you. 1] defiance is 2 years old 2] It's based of the scyfy show of the same name, which is slated to go into its third season next year. 3] defiance has 5 dlcs 4] defiance is patched often, to this day. I've had to patch 3x in the past week since it went ftp. I dont mind. It means they're working hard to maintain this game and make it fun for everyone. 5] defiance has a launch story that is many times more fulfilling then Destiny. I've been playing for a week and still have many core missions to beat. 6] max level is hard to obtain, and requires dedication and skill. I'm about 10%there. 7] defiance is truly massive. I've seen 40+friendlies on my mini all fighting for the same objective. 8]the enemies are varied and balanced. 9] low level players Are scaled so they can compete in high levelcontent 10] clans are fully integrated into the game. 11] there is a ton of end game content. Raids, sieges, conflicts, minor/major arkfalls 12] competitive pvp with level advantages 13] extensive coop activities 14] well designed loot system, craft table, trading system and grind I can keep going if anyone is interested Tldr If Destiny and defiance had a kid i would never stop playing.