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Pointless. On hard now that would be something to post about.
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  • can you just appreciate good gameplay? why does everything have to be on hard?

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  • Because its no feat to do it on normal.

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  • Let's see you do it.

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  • Normal is easy. Shut up.

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  • I didn't say normal was hard, but when your doing a part meant for 6 players by yourself it's not "easy." So if you really don't have anything good to say here why post?

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  • Actually it would be really easy especially if you did it with a void walker using obsidian mind.

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  • I wont.

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  • On hard. I wouldnt come close.

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  • On normal

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  • but what exactly escalates the excitement from normal to hard? What would be such a difference that it would be considered a "wow" feature on hard? That the oracles have a little more health? If he ran through it on hard with his lvl 30 as opposed to his lvl 29 with the exact same strategy but he needed 2 more shots per oracle that would be the icing on the cake eh.

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  • If it's not biggy then why wouldn't he just do it on hard

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  • never once did he say it's no biggy, please read carefully

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  • -Weapon damage scaling stops at 20 with 300 power weapons. Even if he switched to the level 30, with the same maxed weapons, he would be dealing 4 level scales less in terms of health percentage per shot in damage. -Enemy a.i. have better tactics and accuracy when any mission is set to hard instead of normal. -This last one I can't be sure of, but it *feels* like more enemies spawn on hardmode. The cumulative small differences are the real reason hardmode is more challenging (besides the obvious no respawn from teammates).

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  • Edited by CloudlessHeaven: 11/9/2014 10:27:21 PM
    Thats a really good explanation, thank you. I just talked to iRush about why he didn't do it on hard mode seeing there's a lot of comments about doing it on hard and he also gave a really good explanation. This was his response "i wouldn't say hard mode would be impossible but seeing it's a timed run the more time you spend on a single oracle lessens the chance of completion. The run I made was a strategic run. I knew where to go, which weapons to use, how much ammo i would need counting the cool down time of a synth considering you would only be able to use one during the run. I used strategic positions at some places being as close to the majority of oracles as i could, yet have line of sight to snipe the ones too far away. The sniper i used is the ice breaker for obvious reasons, mainly for the ammo regen but only carrys so many bullets at a time. Having to use more bullets on a single oracle would eliminate taking 2 oracles out with the sniper. You are then forced to rely on your primary/heavy for reasons based on distance. Vision of Confluence/Corrective Measure would be the more obvious choice for hard mode as opposed to the epilogue/vengeance which i relied on in normal mode. You would in the end use twice as much ammo to attempt a completion on hard and would rely solely on a lucky drop base for your ammo recovery as you would only be able to use one synth for replenish. While you are frantically running around to find much needed ammo you have now taken yourself out of any strategic positions. A little bit of luck and knowledge mmmmmm you could probably get it done." Well that's pretty much it folks lol

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  • I completely understand where he is coming from. But i was trying to explain why saying "solo oracles on hard" is just as ludicrous as "solo the confluxes". My comment wasn't meant to push for that trial, rather to explain the existing difference in difficulty. In short, we both are thinking the same thing: the enemies on hard are too spongy to solo oracles. Lol.

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  • lol heard

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  • Hard mode is something that needs to be experienced. I cant explain it to you. So get your level up and you will understand what im saying. I could explain I just dont want to.

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  • [quote]Hard mode is something that needs to be experienced. I cant explain it to you. So get your level up and you will understand what im saying. I could explain I just dont want to.[/quote] No, we understand what you're saying: "He didnt do it on hard mode, so its not impressive." Until YOU provide a video of YOU doing it solo, even on easy, just open your mouth and put your foot right in there, jackass. This. Was. Impressive.

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  • what he said: this WAS impressive.

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