lol... you call completeing the raid easy mode... granted you can exploit the raid mechanics and still get the vex, but if you do it legit, that isn't easymode... you should get something good for that. but if it is a problem in pvp, then the solution should be for pvp, a pvp balance change should never also effect pve, and vice versa. now grow up kid and post like an adult.

No, if you use an exploit to gain anything in the game that IS easy mode it is not legit. Even if you do it so-called legit you do not get to decide what you get or how good it has to be in the game. It is their game they have full rights to decide to change anything no matter what any player ever thinks and no they do not have to ever get the players approval of the change first. They decide what is fair and balanced by their data/metrics they gather from game play, not the players ever. Guess you never have played many games that had a pvp and pve, for when an item is balanced in one it carries over to the other. They dont split them just so one group can be happy about it.

lol its you showing your naivety when it comes to games and pvp modes vs pve modes... most games have separate gear for pvp and pve so this kind of issue doesn't arise to begin with... since destiny failed at this the next best options is separating how the stats on gear and character perks work in pvp or pve.

Actaully most games do not have them separate at all. WoW does not separate it, EVE online does not separate it, BL does not separate it. Diablo does not separate it ME3 did not separate it. So no, most games do not separate it or balance each separately.. just proves how little you really think you know.

wow has pvp gear and pve gear, at least up to wrath of the lich king, when I stopped playing. eve online has fits that work in pvp and fits that work in pve... only if your lucky or fighting an idiot will you kill a player ship in a pve fit. I don't know about diablo... but swtor, rift, guilds of war2, everquest 2, and many many others have very distinct pve and pvp gear and balance accordingly. but this isn't the point.... the point is pvp and pve are very different game modes and you cant have true balance for either unless you treat them differently, the biggest difference obviously is A.I. verse a person, unless we are talking chess, I have never known an A.I. in a game to be a huge challenge to compete with like another person is. because of this pve usually throws numbers at you to make up for an intellectual deficiency, while pvp concerns itself more with stats of the individual and gear to keep the playing field balanced while hopefully not compromising the ingenuity of the player and his/her skill.... even within the same game, pve and pvp are very different games.

See then you really do not know about WoW much anymore. For there is no forced separation of gear from pve and battle grounds. You can wear either in each and do well depending upon your skill as a player and not dependance upon gear and weapon. And in EVE online you can easily kill a player with pve fit and not need just a pvp fit and again that game does not force them to be separate Just because those few games you mentioned did it one way does not mean every other game that has both a pvp and pve has to do it the same way. It is up to the developers on how they want to do it, not up to the players on how it HAS to be. No, not really, I can have played many games that had pve and pvp and could use the same gear and do well. So no they do not always have to be separate and balanced separately just because some players think it has to be done or should be done. Bungie does not have to do what other games do in how they make their game. Either the players adapt or they move on to another game that is more suited to them instead of expecting the game always be adapted to how they think it should be and play..