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originally posted in: Iron Banner NEEDS a 'Black List'
10/8/2014 11:47:07 AM
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Ok, no black list needed, no this or that. Ill tell you what will fix the problem Give.... Iron Banner Reputation.... even if.... Your team loses. Problem solved. Cant believe Bungie even allowed this to happen to begin with, they think people will stay just for the crucible marks they will likely have maxed out anyway? Seriously... /facepalm. Bungie has aloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot to learn on how MMORPG mechanics like this work in relation to the playerbase. I honestly feel Bungie is going into something they really wish they didnt now.
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  • Agreed, exiting early will seem less attractive if those that bear with losing stay in the game and at least put an effort up.

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  • The problem is people quitting because they don't get any rep when they lose a match AND because there are no repercussions for leaving. With all the people complaining about people wanting stuff for participation I think it would be better to punish people who leave on purpose (pull out ghost and go to orbit) with a negative rep for Iron Banner. It will keep them in the game just the same...

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  • They need to make exiting early less attractive, then think about repercussions, but this also has a chance to hurt people who legitimately got kicked and didn't exit. Giving the losers some small reputation will not hurt anyone.

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  • hey you get a whopping 10 crucible faction too! ha

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  • So, basically, take out the competition from itself? [spoiler]And leave it as regular control crucible?[/spoiler] Not sure if troll or CoD player - even though CoD players know what competition is. [spoiler]And pretty sure MMORPG's PvP doesn't have this "reward for just participating" mechanics - You need to win to stay on top and get season gear[/spoiler]

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  • I don't know what MMORPG's have, this isn't a MMORPG though. Since Control is really all about cooperation, you can still do extremely well and lose. What about those players? They get nothing? Not everyone has a group of people to partner up with for the best cooperation/communication possible. Since communication outside of fire teams is non-existence and pretty much every player has to guess what the best thing to do, which often leads to a pretty uncooperative gaming experience.

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  • Tell me you didn't just say Call Of Duty players know what competition is. Tell me you didn't just say that, SUCKAAAA! Anyways, I guess you can say the competitive side Call Of Duty comes down to who is better at aim assist quick scopes.

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  • [quote]So, basically, take out the competition from itself?[/quote] No, as true competition does it for the sake of winning regardless of rewards.

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  • Edited by Alexandrious: 10/8/2014 6:02:56 PM
    Maybe your just stupid, or retarded, maybe retarded, im sure your retarded. So let me spell it out for you. People, will leave, if they are not gonna get what they want. In Iron banner, its the rep, if they are not gonna get the rep, and they know they wont, they will not waste TIME, and stick around. Cuz alot of people, dont have 5-10 hours to play games each day like you obviously do, since your not getting it in your tiny little brain. This is something that is COMMON, in MMO games and happens, all, the, time. People will abandon their group be it for PVE or PVP, if some sorta failure happens that prevents the group from being able to reach or attain the goal that they want, and they would rather save time and leave, than they would to just push on, waste time, and not get what they were aiming for. Thats how it works. Brush up on your MMO 101. Iron banner, not only do alot of people report, seems no different from any other crucible event that it seems like Light levels, gear, and such doesnt seem to make any difference at all if but even a little, but it is yet, another rushed out, bad decision on Bungie's part. No rep gain at all for the losing team? I saw what that was gonna result in a mile away.

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  • Yeah, I see people drop out all the time in Iron Banner because the team is losing. They really need to have some balance where even if you lose, you still earn some kind of IB rep. Can I get a "Hell Yeah". BUNGIE 3:16 SAID WE JUST SCREWED YOUR @$$!

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  • I don't give a crap about MMO 101. I have both a moral and design objection to creating rewards in response to being a shitty person that require one to do nothing except not be a douche. I much prefer the above recommended "rep per kill" system instead.

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  • I agree with you that IB needs to either give some rep to the loosing team, or tie the rep to your personal kill and points count. People don't want to spend time for zero reward. Now that being said, you might want to work on your people skills because throwing the R word around will cause people to just hate on you and miss the valid point you were trying to make.

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  • Dude, I deal with retards online, and in RL, all the time. ok? My people skills? I only use them when people are not being retarded. When they are being retarded, like the old lady this morning who, all of a sudden, came up to me when I was sitting down, reading a book against a tree by the parking lot, asked me why I was sitting there. In which I responded, and of course, held up, I am reading a book. She responded that she didn't believe that, that I was there to damage or steal, her piece of shit vehicle. She threatened if I did anything, she will put me in Jail. Now see, I am half-italian, and in Italy, we dont put up with that kinda crap, as much as people stereotype us as being fun loving or what not. So naturally, I do what I do when dealing with retards. I get up, I throw away the peoples skills. I told her she is a senile old shit that is gonna die soon anyway, hopefully of lung failure or what not, and she needs to be in a retirement -blam!-ing home so she wouldn't bother people anymore, I then proceeded to elbowing the passenger side window of her car, smashing it to pieces. Smirked, then left. I dont like retards Cyborg. And anyone who defends this game, despite all the lies, and false promises, and now even a testimony from that Architect guy, all being infront of these idiots, that they still defend this game. Makes my blood boil. At the sheer, IDIOCY, they seem to exhibit.

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  • Make sure when you say people are retarded you may spell YOU'RE correctly as well. You're not a MMORPG player, right? [quote]dont have 5-10 hours to play games [/quote] that's how much you should play on a MMORPG. No they will not; some poor losers will... that's the difference between players and KiDZ. And by the way, my brain is larger than average, sorry kid.

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  • Edited by Alexandrious: 10/10/2014 12:32:59 AM
    My god you are stupid huh? Their are plenty of mmos now where people can make substantial progress in 4 hours or less. Your brain is larger than average, but its full of dead, brain cells. Sorry laddie. I have 100x YOU'RE experience with mmos. You dont know shit.

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  • [quote]Make sure when you say people are retarded you may spell YOU'RE correctly as well. You're not a MMORPG player, right? [quote]dont have 5-10 hours to play games [/quote] that's how much you should play on a MMORPG. No they will not; some poor losers will... that's the difference between players and KiDZ. And by the way, my brain is larger than average, sorry kid.[/quote] Did you know the human head weighs 8 lbs? "Kid from Jerry Maguire"

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  • You really are retarded then. Some poor losers? Try half the population playing. Often and frequently I get match maked into a ongoing team that is losing. In which I have to immediately just leave and que again. Sighs, such blind sheep.

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  • [quote]Sighs, such blind sheep.[/quote] for disagreeing with you that we don't need the loser side getting rep? [quote]Some poor losers? Try half the population playing.[/quote] is it my fault that those guys never played a difficult MMORPG, like you? [quote]Often and frequently I get match maked into a ongoing team that is losing.[/quote] that's your choice of how to play a game you bought. [quote]You really are retarded then.[/quote] Why? I just stated that we should reward a non-competitive behaviour on a competitive playlist.

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  • Blind sheep still blind.

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