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10/5/2014 6:33:27 AM
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Why do people keep bring up diablo and borderlands? I dont think any of you people that bring it up have actually ever played it. Yah you get a ton of loot in borderlands amd diablo but 99.9% of it is garbage. Id rather NOT get trolled every 2 min with garbage loot and "think" im progressing.
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Legendary engrams after the patch are no better. You'll get materials 75%+ of the time. Ide rather have the old system. For those that need the legendary items, theres no point in the changes if all you get are matierals used to upgrade the items you don't have. And even if you do have the items, its a waste unless theyre exotics or raid gear.
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Diablo and borderlands only drop shit legendaries and the mats you get for salvaging are useless. Youre getting tricked into thinking youre getting somewhere by getting "legendary" shit thrown at you frequently. Its 50x worse then destiny. And destiny just came out a month ago. Those games have been out for years
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How is that any different from Destiny? You get items here that are quite literally worthless unless you have the best gear already. And even if you get a legendary item out of an engram, its possible its worse than anything you have, meaning you'd break it down. And guess what? You get ascendents, coming full circle. Atleast in those games you aren't capped in progression. Sure, if you want to get moderately decent gear you can try and farm for drops (and get very very little), and hope that the RNG decides to be nice. But if you want the best gear you can only attempt it once a week (per character) and again, hope the RNG is nice. At no point have I ever felt like ive hit a wall for progression like I have in Destiny. I still like the game, but this idiotic time wall they've thrown up to try and draw out the content is ridiculous.
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Yeah but hey. Its activision man. Forced bungie to cut the game up and water it down so people pay $$ to buy what essentially should of been the full game from the start
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Please don't start that. Bungie isn't some innocent child being tricked or forced into doing things. If content was truly cut, it would of primarily been Bungie's doing. I'm sick of people going after the publishers of games as though they are some giant evil corporation trying to rip everyone off and the developers are completely innocent little children that are under their control. Heads up, Bungie and every other developer are a buisness as well. Guess what their main priority is? Profit. This is how the world works.
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And activision and EA are evil. Look what they did to call of duty and battlefield. Turned them to dogshit for 12 year olds
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Yes because thats evil. Seriously, grow up. You think they're crap, and yet they are some of the most profitable games out there. Whether that be because theyre the same game put out every year or any reason, your personal preferences don't provide evidence for an "evil" company ruining games. Most of the blame should be put on the developers. PS, even if they were the direct cause of making a game crap, doesnt make them evil.
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Dude youre taking things way too seriously. Do you or do you not agree that activision ruins game franchises for hardcore gamers. Sure they are profitable because CASUAL gamers like them.
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Neither were ever designed for "hardcore" gamers. Also, I don't consider anyone a "hardcore" gamer unless they are at the professional level, otherwise you are playing it for leisure, even if its competitive. And again, that comes down to personal preferences of each individual. Objectively, they should aim to please the majority, what you call "casual." Thats what they're doing and will continue to do so.
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thats your definition of hardcore. And who are you to say what these companies should aim to do? All these are your opinions
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Edited by Father Giliam: 10/5/2014 10:14:09 PMTheir main priority is money. How do you make the most money? Appeal to the majority. Thats not opinion, its fact. The likely reason a company will attempt to make a game that isnt directed at the majority is if they believe they can control that niche market or believe they have a new idea for said market. Also, im going to guess a "hardcore" gamer in your eyes is someone who plays to win or plays alot of games quite a bit. I fit into the latter. I still know games aren't ruined on purpose by any company. They are attempting to appeal to a wider group of people or trying to add something new into their game. The latter point there brings up a point about consumers. In general, consumers don't know what they want and love to complain with no objectivity and base it purely on personal preferences. They complain a game is the same as the previous one and call for change. The developers oblige and then they complain its too different and talk about "how it use to be." If they don't change anything, the people complain its the same thing, and its got boring and stale. The developers can't win.
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But publishers DO have control over developers. Just like producers have control over movies. Their $$ their rules
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Edited by Father Giliam: 10/5/2014 5:00:32 PMThey do, but not anywhere near to the extent people think they do. Unless you quite literally work for a developer or publisher, stop trying to state your uninformed opion as fact.
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You just agreed with me. They DO have control. All i was arguing is whether they had control or not. Not to what extent. So you share my same "uninformed opinion"
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No I don't. Your opinion is they exert enough control to ruin a game or tell them to cut content. I do not.
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Disk locked content. You read the AMA on redditt? makes a lot ot sense
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You cant compare those games with destiny. Way different. I do agree there is too much RNG however. But thats why they have legendaries you can work your way to if you dont wanna roll RNG. 150 crucible/vanguard marks is nothing. And both vendors have good weaps. Doctor nope, lord high fixxer, etc etc.
