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10/3/2014 1:22:19 PM
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Ya, the story is so disappointing and vapid...
"You're going to see a lot of things you won't understand." - And you're not going to clear any of them up for me are you?
"I could tell you about the Traveller, I could tell you about the darkness..." - But you're not so why exactly are you talking to me right now? I mean we're standing in the only safe place on the planet with not much to do right now. Tell you what how about we step out for something to eat, dead for hundreds of years and I'm a might peckish, and you tell me your story, you know the ones you used to tell to scare the kids.
"I don't even have time to explain why I don't have time to explain." - Yet you've been sitting on you duff waiting for me to come here and meet you, you couldn't have spent some of that time creating a FAQ documentary to give me? How about some Cliff Notes or a copy of "The Darkness for Dummies."
"Have you heard of the Black Garden?" - No, I'd ask you to enlighten me but ... Oh there you go -blam!-ing off again with no explanation.
"We need to see the Awoken." - Ya been meaning to ask you about that Guilty Dinklage, I was a nice shade of tan when I died and now I'm blue grey, what is up with that?
And so on it goes...
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I salute you sir
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Applause! This is -blam!-ing hilarious!
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I believe it's all there to peak your interest. To leave you with mystery. Something that'll drive you to uncover the mysteries in the future. Yes, they may have overshot this mystery factor, to a point where it became detrimental to themselves, but that's what I believe they were going for. The story sucks if you see this as the full game, but I don't believe that's the case.
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I payed for a full game though, not the "first chapter" as many of you supporters prattle on about. And guess what? The first two Expansion packs are already on the Disk! And they don't sound to be the big "unveiling chapters" you all wanted. It sounds like they will open up currently blocked locations in Old Russia, and they will just be a couple "big fallen" bosses and maybe another "big knight". So is it ok to pay Full Game Price for one chapter? No, is it ok to pay half that price AGAIN just for content that's already on the disk? No. Case closed.
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You -blam!-ing idiot. Can you read? I'm not starting another -blam!-ing pointless conversation. Especially when it's because you can't -blam!-ing read in context. I don't care about you or your pathetic opinion.
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We can only judge it as a full game though, and many of us find it is lacking in that sense. It is unfair to artificially rate or grade Destiny based on what it COULD become. When Halo CE, Assassin's Creed, Oblivion, Borderlands 1, or Mass Effect came out, we didn't judge them or rate them in a way that was dependent on Halo 2, AC 2, Skyrim, Borderlands 2, or ME2. We judged them on the basis of the story that was told in each one. Yes, all of them were a part of a bigger story, a bigger universe, but each of them was an independently told story in that expansive series. And each of those core games could be played and generally understood without the addition of any DLC or expansion. They had a beginning, a middle, and an end. They all answered questions about the new world we were in while at the same time hinting at more questions that could be asked and answered in future installments. You can enjoy any of those games without ever having to go any farther in the series if you like. Of course, if you do move to the next game in the series, the story just gets deeper and more engaging, for the most part. Destiny fails to produce this same feeling. There doesn't seem to be the beginning of any story that leads to the middle and then to a climactic end. There isn't anything engaging that leads you to care about the story or the characters in that story. There are no real relationships formed, no real human emotion, no dialogue to reveal aspects of a characters personality or intentions. Those are key elements of drawing a player into the game world, and they are absent in Destiny.
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Perfectly stated
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my whole thing is this......I want to know about the factions, I want the cutscenes they deleted, I want my story as an awoken to make sense, any sense at all mind you! lol. I want the game to pull me into it;s world, I know it's hearsay but it's also very logical and very probable that there used to be 3 different beginnings for the 3 different races! WOW that sounds amazing! there used to be cutscenes and a real story but the "Higher ups" said nope! I mean why else would a lead writer, someone who was with a company for over 15 years just up and BAIL?!?:!?! i'll say its proly due to the fact that his vision was torn apart by assholes who just want money. and the funny thing is, is that if they left it the way it was supposed to be it would sell like hotcakes! but what we get is a lame broken. BORING GAME ! I actually feel like it's a chore to play now. and ppl can say " ohh, just wait, you're jumping to conclusions" I don't think SO! what they promised and what we got are two different games! it really truly bums me out. :( there has to be a way to fix this B 4 it's too late. they know they messed up by doing what they did at this point, now BUNGIE!!!!! how are we gonna get square on that 100 bux I gave you for a crumb of half assed game?
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Whats annoying is that they've made the game just different enough that when we compare destiny to any of them games we get the ravid fanbois saying its like comparing apples to bathing salts.
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Tell me something that isn't obvious? I'm not sticking up for them, so that explanation was pointless. I'm simply explaining their possible intentions. I'm not even talking about sequels. However, this also isn't your typical game. It seems to be an adapting game. You don't know what's coming in the future, so it's not as if you can judge it as a whole in the beginning of its release. You can judge the beginning, sure. Though judging the game as if it remains in a constant form is foolish. No one knows where this game will go. Just hope for the best.
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To quote you: [quote]I believe it's all there to peak your interest. To leave you with mystery. Something that'll drive you to uncover the mysteries in the future. Yes, they may have overshot this mystery factor, to a point where it became detrimental to themselves, but that's what I believe they were going for. The story sucks if you see this as the full game, but I don't believe that's the case.[/quote] My response to that was the above comment. How you can't see that as relevant is beyond me. You say it's supposed to be a mystery. If this was a film it would be 20 min long and you would want your money back. Sorta like "Mulholand Drive". Submitting a non story with no character progression, subplots, or for that matter a plot at all is not a mystery it's incomplete. You said the story sucks if you see it as a full game. Well we purchased a full game. You are just making excuses for crappy story telling. Stop making excuses and demand better.
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Again, you do not fail to disappoint. Well, let me be fair to you. It's probably more that you're choosing to cherry-pick what you want to see in an attempt to voice your anger towards this game. Where anything that could be taken as an attempt of justification is soon twisted into an opportunity to vent your dissatisfaction. Being this is the internet, and I can't provide verbal or visual undertones as to what I'm trying to portray, I'll cut you some slack. I did not try to justify Destiny at all. I simply put forward what I believed their intentions were, and claimed they overshot them; causing the game to plummet. Following me now? I don't want some random guy to spew the same, regurgitated, obvious, and pointless rant to me. Especially when it's created for taking what I said out of context. Do you think you're actually informing me of the game's current state? No, you're not. You're just being the new poster boy for the obvious factors every single person who has ever played this game knows. You're not bringing forth a new perspective. You're not superior in your understanding of the situation. So please, save both of us the time. If you want to complain about Destiny, you'll reap the same benefits doing it to a wall. Nonetheless, the issue at hand is more complex than what we see. So please... Treat it as such.
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Wow. bud you keep ringing the same bell. I don't assume anyone's intentions. I merly reiterate what Bungie promised and how I am not happy with what they delivered. I happen to disagree with your assesment of their intentions, backed up with what little facts available to the public. To be clear I heard your opinion and agree they missed the mark, I just think what they intended to do is different from what you think they wanted to do. I'm not ranting. I'm just a little long winded. Furthermore this was a plea not a rant. I hope they fix it. I want to be lost in this game. I want to love it for 10 + years. And imho the situation is simple. Bungie (or Activision) dropped the ball. nuff said.
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Edited by Shpip: 10/7/2014 6:51:31 AMWhat Bungie promised was a game that adapted as it went. Therefore it is not a glorified beta, as you suggested, rather than it is an investment. You know what that is, right? This game isn't a traditional full story on-release game, and they actually suggested that if you paid attention to anything they said before release. They've brought up the fact that the game would stretch for 10 years. Thus, logically, they couldn't release the full game from the start. They had to keep the content from being ringed out far too quickly. They're not sitting upon a pile of content they can just throw out into the world for 10 years straight. Thus, they released the beginning with the mystery factor for the upcoming events in the future to unfold. Well, at least until they could get themselves back in order. In the manner they did it, especially not making it fully clear that the story would adapt, it failed. People had wrong expectations, like you, that this would be a full game. While that is completely unrealistic. What you're doing is judging the first chapter. Which, yes, was disappointing. Not only did they have this giant void to fill, but they also had production problems. So, considering they even launched with anything is impressive. You can bet your ass that they're working their asses off as we speak to get back on track. If you're going to hope they improve, you could have simply done so without wasting your time making a misguided "plea" in response to something I posted.
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Plea was to bungie not you. and you are wrong on all counts. A 10 year game!?! wtf are you talking about? It's a 10 year franchise. Just like halo. You are soooooo misguided. for the 100th time you don't buy a book 1 chapter at a time neither do we buy partial games. Even newer franchises like The Walking Dead that have that episodic structure are "full games". This is a piss poor excuse for a half finished beta. But it's nice to know your standards are so low that you are impressed by "anything being released at all. There were days when companies would delay games and projects to fully finish games because they couldn't massivly patch their poor excuses for games. Either you are a troll or just simple. Either way you and your kind are what's wrong with the gaming industry today. No standards. No accountability. What a waste.
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...and, you just resort back to your initial, idiotic claims. It's a shame comprehensive reading is such a struggle for you. You're talking out of your ass based on your own assumptions. "No, you're wrong! It's not like this is anything they've actually said to the public or anything! Oh, and they've totally used the word 'franchise'! I just... can't quote it! At all. But they totally said it! So I'm going to go back to my original delusion and ignoring key details so I can have an excuse to whine some more!" You know what's truly wrong with gamers? Entitlement. You have two options. You either wait for the game to improve, or you quit. You can do both of those without shedding light on how self-consumed you are. You want to make a "plea" to Bungie? Make an actual post. (That isn't just a complaint. Like the one you're making here. There's not a single plea in what you've said.) I don't know how many times I'll have to say: I don't care for your regurgitated input. I'm not sticking up for anything. I'm telling you that you're wasting your time. So take it for what it is, and -blam!- off.
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oo, i know what s coming in the future ,, DLC what was taken from the game
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What a sad state of affairs we are in when our best and brightest game developers only give us games that we can "Just hope for the best". Shouldn't we expect that from indy games or a broken franchise? Not from Bungie, not even Activision. If what you are saying is true then we are playing a glorified beta. I didn't pay for a beta. No one pays for betas because they are by their very nature incomplete. I paid for a full game. Again, we as gamers should expect and DEMAND (with our pocketbooks) day 1 fully complete, functional games. When you make a game you start with the story. In the nintendo days it could be as simple as "plumber fights monsters to save princess", 3 paragraphs of dialouge and you're done. Then you can move on to to the next critical step: gameplay mechanics, the "feel" of the game. And finally polish the graphics. Today we expect more from our game developers yet they seem to consistantly fall short on the first 2 of these basics. That's why we judge it.
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Take everything out of context simply to make an annoying, pointless rant towards me. Why don't you talk to someone who cares, or even in a situation that is relevant to what I'm saying.
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Course it's not a the full game, we have plenty of DLC to be sold to us that'll hopefully explain all of these questions and flesh out this terrible skeleton of a story. YAY FOR DLC! Oh yeah, and the sequels, I'm so invested in the story, that I'm so gonna go out and buy all the DLC, and lay another 60 bucks down, for another game that probably has a skeleton of a story with new questions, for the next sequel to dangle in my face. So excited for this franchise it's killin me.
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Read what I wrote once more. Don't be stupid.
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Sounds to me like you're excusing this whole shit story by saying it's not a "full game" and it's just trying to make us want more, when in fact it's just not, the only part of what you said that I can agree with is ... [quote]Yes, they may have overshot this mystery factor, to a point where it became detrimental to themselves,[/quote]
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I said it became a detriment, and I'm not trying to cover for it. I'm just trying to say it was their intention to draw in the player with the mystery aspect. I'm also saying that it didn't work out for them at all. I don't make excuses for how the game turned out. Every single person who has played the game is well aware of its flaws. However, we don't know what they'll do in the future. So it's best to be optimistic.
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You downplayed it quite a bit, the only thing that will make me optimistic is if they start publicly addressing these issues and possibly even dishing out some free content that fleshes this crap job of a story up a bit. As it is right now, I don't expect anything from these DLCs, or the sequels, I have no real reason to be optimistic.
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Do you know if the sequels are just a rumor, or if they're just a rumor going around? If they're a reality, I'm going to be quite pissed. I think they're driving people mad by not talking to the community that much, and I think it could truly hurt them.
