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Edited by Sandtrap: 7/13/2014 1:49:45 PM
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The one easy, and simple answer, is that people are dumb. It's a fault that lies in our very nature. Climate Change is somewhat of a redundant term however. Of course the climate changes. Nothing in existence stands still. Everything changes over time. And, looking back on the history of our planet, there's been a lot of climate change. Huge changes, in fact. But here's the kicker. These events happened gradually. Slow and steady. It gave time for life to adapt with the changing world around it. We can only guess how the climate will react as a result of the things we've done. Glaciers are retreating at phenominal rates, as is arctic ice in some places. Spots in the world are becoming colder, or hotter. Seasons are beginning to change their established norm and length. And yet, we keep finding results that make us scratch our heads from time to time. The truth is, we view climate change as this destructive thing, with all negatives to it. This is not the case. Nature acts like a balancing scale for every event. Something happens here, something changes over there as a result in accordance. The climate change can be destructive, but it is inherently not a "bad" thing. What is bad, is how fast it changes. And in this, Climate Change should be labled as Climate Change Acceleration. We aren't damaging the climate, no, we are merely speeding up the rate at which it changes. Events that would take thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of years to come to completion are now only taking place in the span of a few hundred years, if not decades. And that is the real problem, because life can't adapt to an environment that is constantly changing back and forth like a light switch. What we face is a true problem, and nobody's buckled down to do the hard thing to stop it. The only thing we can do now is let it happen, and learn from the experience. A lot of bad will come if it, this I can say for sure. But you can't have bad without good. If our society begins to collapse as a result, then perhaps one day we can stand up once more, having learned from our mistakes. And I don't say this lightly either. Of all the users here, I'm probably the closest to the north pole, unless any of you live in Alaska or the northern territories of Canada. In the span of the last two years, we've had three completely abnormal weather events that hadn't happened for over 60 years, that destroyed/crippled the environment, and caused their fare share of deaths. When the abnormal starts becoming normal at an increasing rate, then there is something wrong. But the only thing we can do now is let it hit people in the face. As I've said before elsewhere, today, people don't stand up to anything unless it's already bopped them on the head, and interfered with their life. In our history, Humankind has always been like this. There are the general masses of people, and then there are those unique individuals who stand out from the crowd. They can look beyond what the general rabble cannot, and strive to grow and reach beyond the established boundries. In most cases, the general common mass is amazed by this, and so through demand the inventions of the few prosper and spread. But always, always, there have been those who shunned progress and scientific evidence. It's just that in today's world, the line between the common rabble and the select few is growing more distant. The masses today, dare I say it, are in some regards, less intelligent than their predacessors. And as the line grows further apart, the masses will be granted amazing new technology, but they themselves will not evolve at the same rate as the technology. In fact, as it's already proven, they regress the more their numbers grow as a result of technology allowing people to live longer when natural selection would have claimed them years ago. The more people you have in a group, the less intelligent the group becomes as a whole. And the more technology you feed the group, the easier the group can survive, thrive, and grow, without really knowing why. And now, the common masses have grown rather large. So much so that they can have an influence on things to some degree. And this influence is like a black hole that is created as a result of the masses being so large. It's a downward spiral perpetuated by itself and it's own existence.
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  • Excellent post. I wholeheartedly agree that what the media and published journals refer to as "climate change" should be referred to as "climate change acceleration", but in many publications it is already referred to as anthropogenic climate change, which is arguably the same thing. It's true that we still don't understand these global cycles, and yes, as I mentioned in a subthread, it's clear from sediment and ice cores that the planet has undergone many climate changes in the past. And we're not talking a human timescale of a few thousand years, which seems to be what throws off a lot of nay-sayers - we're talking millions of years. Ice ages and interglacials have come and gone, none exactly the same as the last, but yet people still choose not to "believe" it. It beggars belief.

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  • As I said, our numbers have grown too large. The common, average masses hold some semblence of power, and can obstruct and deter the progress of ideas, and many other teachings and things. The larger the group, the dumber the group as a whole. This is a proven thing. And now as our technology progresses, we as people aren't keeping up with it, and as a result, are going backwards. Part of what makes it even worse is the power certain groups such as various religions hold in swaying the minds of people. If anything, I think we need to get a good bop on the head for a wake up call. We need things to spin out of control. It's not a pretty concept, but in the state of our society, the only thing that could help us now are disasters. Big ones. Ones that don't discriminate between rich or poor, and start breaking down our society bit by bit. Maybe it doesn't need to go all the way. But the best wake up call anybody gets is when things blow up in their face.

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