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originally posted in:Secular Sevens
5/12/2014 7:58:04 AM
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Not that I really care much about this because I don't think it's likely to be adversely affecting anyone or anything, but maybe some of these people could actually try reading the book they love to publicly venerate so much.
[quote][i]When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. - Matthew 6:6[/i][/quote]
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Very good point.
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you can't just choose a random verse and apply it to everything.
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Edited by ToiletToads: 5/14/2014 2:56:57 AMBut you can take a verse about public prayer and apply it to public prayer. The point of this verse is that you gain nothing by praying in public rather than praying in private. So, if the supreme court had made the opposite ruling and the people were made to pray in private, it would not be diminishing their prayer in the eyes of God.
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The verse, though, doesn't mean don't pray in public, although it may sound like it. it means don't go telling everyone you are a person of faith trying to show off sorta thing. It's not saying don't say a prayer like bless this meeting or whatever/make it productive
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It quite explicitly equates public prayer to showing off, and then goes on to tell you not to do it.
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Ok, I'm no theologian, so I can't answer all your questions, but I wish I understood it well enough to tell you.
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[quote]The verse, though, doesn't mean don't pray in public, although it may sound like it. it means don't go telling everyone you are a person of faith trying to show off sorta thing. It's not saying don't say a prayer like bless this meeting or whatever/make it productive[/quote] Praying in public is showing off
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No, there are different kinds of prayer. I mentioned some of the things they may have said. I said they probably prayed that they would accomplish something (or similar) during the meeting. Also, praying in this culture is definitely not showing off, cause we get told off.
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It's not saying don't pray in public, it's saying you dont [b]have[/b] to pray in public. I completely agree with the courts ruling, but I'd definitely say this verse could be applied here. The Bible certainly seems to say that it isn't necessary to pray in public, and that there are benefits to praying in private.
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The verse is clearly [i]not[/i] merely saying that public prayer "isn't necessary," but is in fact quite explicitly suggesting that public prayer is a hypocritical and vain pursuit. People who pray in public, according to this verse, "have their reward in full," i.e. they get to look "holier than thou" in front of their peers, which was in fact their desire from the start, and therefore require nor deserve any further assistance from god. It suggests that people who are humble and interested only in "communing with their god" should not pray in public to prove that they have no ulterior motives in doing so.
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Well that's alright.
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Shh...
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OMG IT'S DIS.
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Holy shit, I haven't seen you in a [i]loooong[/i] time!
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shouldn't you be off doing vietnamese twins
