originally posted in:Secular Sevens
No, while I completely support charitable giving and understand the fact that there is a lot of good out of it, I also understand that it's not predictable and can't do things welfare programs have.
[quote]it's a myth that the occasional deluded libertarian likes to spew because it's a comfortable lie that reassures their ideology, but it would simply not happen. [/quote]
It's users like this that make B.net liberals look bad. No one denies the importance of taxes, but if you're still helping your community by donating to charity with an equal or greater amount of money you shouldn't have more money taken out to help those you already helped. That's what Libertarians mean by charitable giving replacing your taxes, only if you give an equal or greater amount than what your tax money would have gone to those programs.
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[quote] No one denies the importance of taxes...That's what Libertarians mean by charitable giving replacing your taxes, only if you give an equal or greater amount than what your tax money would have gone to those programs.[/quote]You realize that there are actually libertarians who want to entirely do away with taxation for the purpose of welfare so that it can be replaced by voluntary charity, right?
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I was clearly disparaging the people who are intellectually small or dishonest enough to think that charity could ever effectively replace extensive welfare programs, not the act of charitable giving itself. I'm sorry if you don't like my tone or something, but I don't think the elimination (or minimisation) of fiscal redistribution is a noble goal and it's not one that I'm going to pretend is sensible or compelling, so I'm not exactly eager to ignore the mental gymnastics of its less pragmatic adherents out of a fear of making 'liberals' look bad.