Honestly it's his complaint that he doesn't like it because he isn't a fan of interactive movies. That's his problem; not other people's problem... If he doesn't like interactive movies, then he shouldn't play on them...

It's not an interactive movie.

Yes, it is.

How so?

It's 98% cutscenes. You merely input to get to next cutscene. I don't know how people cannot fathom this. It's great sure, but it's still an interactive movie. I don't know why people keep insisting otherwise. It's like you can't touch the holy game of the year otherwise you will be killed if you even think of criticising anything about it whatsoever because clearly it's a perfect game and cannot be improved upon whatsoever and all other games should be almost exactly like this otherwise they're not worth playing...

[quote]It's 98% cutscenes.[/quote] The game is 14 hours long and there are just over 3 hours of cutscenes. I'll let you do the math, but let me know if you can't figure it out. I LOVE using statistics against people.

3 hours is too much. 3/14*100%=21% That's over 1/5 of the game. Are you kidding me? If a game has more than 5% of the game as cutscenes it's definitely too much movie. But it's okay because The Last of Us has a great storyline I suppose, but it's not really because of its game aspects it's because of its fu.cking cutscenes... Which are admittedly good, but still...

That's interesting, since GTA 5 has almost 5 hours of them. Hear that sound? It's your argument falling in on itself.

How long is the overall game? The percentage of the game which is cutscenes is most important. I also bought the game for the multiplayer, which is shit and the focus was on gameplay not on the okayish cutscenes. And yes, it had too many cutscenes but I accepted it because it's main focus was on gameplay. And because I was hoping for a good multiplayer which I did not get. So yes I am disappointed but at least their game was good for the gameplay because let's face it, the cutscenes weren't great, even though they were funny. And yes there were too many cutscenes but like I said The Last of Us is great, it's just not because of the game itself, but the cutscenes, so I wished that people would stop jumping down my throat about that...

It's even funnier because Rockstar have confirmed that the GTA 5 campaign is 25 hours long, which adds up to the same 20% of cutscenes. And TLoU has a multiplayer mode that is universally considered superior to GTA 5's. This is just tooooo easy.

5%? Nope, The Last of Us is 20%. 5% is okay and doesn't take you out of the game and at least explains stuff that's happening and most of them aren't too long, however I agree that some of them are too long and too numerous but the main focus is still gameplay so it's still most a video game. That's the focus anyway. The reason why I bought GTA V? Cooperative heists which never, ever fu.cking happened. The Last of Us doesn't have a better multiplayer mode than GTA V... After they patched all of the bugs. That's just a flatout lie. GTA V has tons of activities to do and once they've released the heists, and they've already released capture-the-flag and deathmatch creator and race creator. There's tons more stuff to do in GTA Online. And when heists and heists creator comes out, there's be even more. There's already deathmatch, team deathmatch, race, rally race, parachute race, air race, helicopter race, plane race, boat race, swim race, create-a-race, missions, side-missions and jobs, and there'll soon be create-a-job as well, then there's arm wrestling, golf, tennis and free roam which is the best and impromptu races and one-v-one deathmatch, cooperative movies cinemas participation and single player variants of tennis, golf and cinema attendance then I think that it will be vastly superior to The Last of Us... Once the heists come out and the level creator is updated... Customisable weapons, and cars, a massive open world landscape. Optional private and friends-only modes. Nothing beats it... Once it's complete.

I meant 20%. Couldn't you do the math? 5 hours/25 hours= 20%. You just said in your previous post that GTA's multiplayer is bad, and now you're saying it's good? Talk about desperately grasping at straws.

5 hours!? They're not too long but yes I agree there are too many cutscenes but you can drive about, go into multiplayer and go into side missions so it's not focussing on the cutscenes and it has other qualities besides the cutscenes, which I agree that there are too many of. But at least that's not all it has... Unlike The Last of Us. GTA multiplayer is [I]currently[/I] bad. Once it's been fully updated with the heists and heists creator it'll be better. Even in it's current, shitty, state, it's still better than The Last of Us's multiplayer... Also you can never embarrass yourself over an opinion. That's a ridiculous, and untrue, statement. Because opinions can never be wrong... Remember?

You're not embarrassing yourself because of your opinion. You're embarrassing yourself because you're trying to make up objective reasons why a game is bad and have been proven wrong/illogical on every one of them. If you dislike a game because it isn't your thing, just say so. Don't try and downplay it by saying it 'isn't a game' or 'has too many cutscenes' because the gaps in your logic have been exposed in those areas. You want to talk about opinion? Then stop being hypocritical and simply say these words: 'In my opinion, I like GTA 5 more than TLoU'.

Have been proven wrong and/or illogical!? No, I counterargued all of your points because they were all correct. You're just fooling yourself if you think that. And I never said that The Last of Us is a terrible game; you said that I said that even though I keep insisting that it isn't but that it has some flaws, but you won't have any of it because you completely and utterly insist that it is the greatest game ever made and completely and utterly flawless in every single way whatsoever.

[quote]I counterargued all of your points because they were all correct.[/quote]You said 98 percent of the game is cutscenes. I proved you wrong. You said 3 hours of cutscenes is too much. I exposed the gap in your logic by pointing out that GTA 5 has more. Desperate to redeem yourself, you said that cutscenes are okay as long as they don't make up 20 percent of the game. I exposed the gap in your logic again by showing that 20 percent of GTA 5 is also cutscenes. STILL clinging on, you tried to quickly change the subject towards multiplayer, but unfortunately for you I didn't forget that just ONE POST beforehand you had said the multiplayer in GTA 5 was bad. Then you retorted by saying that it has the [i]potential[/i] to be good. Sorry, but you don't compare things on their potential. You compare them on their current state. If you want to have this discussion again 6 months from now when it's reached its 'potential'... well, I'll have lost interest long before then. [quote]And I never said that The Last of Us is a terrible game; you said that I said that[/quote]Not once did I say that. Re-read my posts if you need clarification. [quote]even though I keep insisting that it isn't but that it has some flaws,but you won't have any of it because you completely and utterly insist that it is the greatest game ever made and completely and utterly flawless in every single way whatsoever.[/quote] I never said anything remotely like that either. Try to stay grounded instead of making things up to try and strengthen your argument (or whatever is left of it). It does anything BUT strengthen it.

The Last of Us multiplayer in its current state isn't as good as GTA V in its current state even though GTA Online in its current state is bad. You said that there were too many cutscenes in GTA V, that doesn't mean to say that The Last of Us doesn't have that problem, just because apparently GTA V did even though cutscenes weren't its main focus, but yes there were too many, but it's the same with The Last of Us because that was it's main focus, but that's okay because that its main focus. That's not a bad thing. I don't know why you think that I'm insisting that it is, when I'm not. I'm merely saying that GTA V is a better game because it's more gameplay oriented but that The Last of Us has a great storyline and is still a very strong contender for game of the year but it's not as much of a game as GTA V. GTA V is a more balanced game. I'm not saying that The Last of Us is a bad game. I don't know why you keep misinterpreting me. Even though there were too many cut scenes in GTA V as well its gameplay was stronger and it was still more balanced than The Last of Us. GTA V is a better overall game but The Last of Us is better in storyline and character development. Why not have both?

[quote]The Last of Us multiplayer in its current state isn't as good as GTA V in its current state even though GTA Online in its current state is bad.[/quote]So now we're back to opinions. That's fine. By the way, TLoU won Best Multiplayer Game for the PS3 too, beating GTA 5. But hooray for opinions right? [quote]You said that there were too many cutscenes in GTA V, that doesn't mean to say that The Last of Us doesn't have that problem, just because apparently GTA V did even though cutscenes weren't its main focus, but yes there were too many, but it's the same with The Last of Us because that was it's main focus, but that's okay because that its main focus. That's not a bad thing. I don't know why you think that I'm insisting that it is, when I'm not.[/quote]Because you tried to use it as a reason why it isn't as good as GTA 5. Obviously you're backing up on that now, but that was your original intent. [quote]I'm merely saying that GTA V is a better game because it's more gameplay oriented[/quote]Again, the award is not Most Gameplay-Oriented Game. It is Best OVERALL Game. And again, opinion. So you're finally admitting what I've been trying to make you realize all along? [quote]but that The Last of Us has a great storyline and is still a very strong contender for game of the year but it's not as much of a game as GTA V.[/quote]See above [quote]GTA V is a more balanced game.[/quote]It's a shame there wasn't an award for Most Balanced Game. [quote]I'm not saying that The Last of Us is a bad game. I don't know why you keep misinterpreting me.[/quote]Never said that (again) [quote]Even though there were too many cut scenes in GTA V as well its gameplay was stronger and it was still more balanced than The Last of Us.[/quote]You've already said this and I already addressed it. [quote]GTA V is a better overall game but The Last of Us is better in storyline and character development.[/quote]You say that as though story and character development don't matter when judging a game as a whole. They are key factors in the overall product just as the gameplay is a key factor. Oh, and opinion again. [quote]Why not have both?[/quote] You haven't been saying this all this time, so it looks like you're changing your entire argument now. Either way, 'Game of the Year' speaks for itself. ONE game. You're repeating the same things over and over now and even when I address them you don't try to counter my points and instead continue to repeat yourself, as though saying something more than once makes it more valid. It doesn't. This is getting tiresome so if you can't think of a fresh response I'll end the discussion (or you'll try and end it before me in an attempt to get out thinking you had the last word). You're basically admitting it's just your opinion, so you're finally agreeing with me on something. This is a good thing.

Wrong. The storyline and character development play second fiddle to gameplay. But these pompous twats always brag on about the storyline and character development. That's nice. But it's hardly GOTY because of its gameplay. Overall best game is GTA V... Followed by TLOU.

I don't care how good gameplay is if the story, graphics, environments etc don't interest me enough to want to play it. Anyway, I'm not really interested in discussing why we prefer one game over the other. As long as you can admit that your opinion is just that and stop acting like a bigot, I'll respect it and we can go our separate ways.

Well that's, like, your opinion man.

Yawn. What a shame. We're done here.