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11/12/2013 7:04:59 PM
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Creationism was disproved in 1859. It's just that creationists have still to get over it.
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Edited by cxkxr: 11/13/2013 1:22:44 PMPlease explain to me how anyone can prove the Universe wasn't created by an omnipotent deity. K Thx Bai.
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That's not how the burden of proof works. You can't prove a negative, derp.
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http://departments.bloomu.edu/philosophy/pages/content/hales/articlepdf/proveanegative.pdf
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Edited by cxkxr: 11/13/2013 1:34:47 PMYou said it was disproven. Please explain to me how it was disproven. And burden of proof is on both sides, bc how the Universe came to be is a mere philosophical and theoretical discussion. I love it when the naturalist evades the debate entirely by using the burden of proof fallacy, it's rather amusing. And besides, I'm not the one claiming for certainty that God created the Universe, altho I subjectively think it's more plausible than not. You on the other hand, seem pretty certain. Can you show me something I'm not seeing? I'd love to believe in the naturalist perspective. Please, enlighten me.
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[quote]You said it was disproven. Please explain to me how it was disproven.[/quote] Origins Of Species, Charles Darwin. The fossilisation of prehistoric creatures. Kind of blatantly obvious that was what I was referring to. [quote]And burden of proof is on both sides, bc how the Universe came to be is a mere philosophical and theoretical discussion. I love it when the naturalist evades the debate entirely by using the burden of proof fallacy, it's rather amusing.[/quote] No, the burden of proof falls on those asserting the claim. You cannot prove something to not exist. I can't [i]prove[/i] there's an invisible gimp in my living room, nor can I disprove it. Lack of evidence suggests that he doesn't exist. Same sort of applies to a benevolent deity. lrn2debateandformarguments. Also, we're discussing creationism, not the existence of a deity anyway. [quote]And besides, I'm not the one claiming for certainty that God created the Universe, altho I subjectively think it's more plausible than not. You on the other hand, seem pretty certain. Can you show me something I'm not seeing? I'd love to believe in the naturalist perspective. Please, enlighten me.[/quote] Strawman out of -blam!-ing nowhere. Point out where I mentioned that God definitely didn't create the universe. Please. I'm aching to know.
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Don't argue with Orizzle, a big portion of your brain cells will commit mass suicide for doing so.
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You changed your name to Orizzle.
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You yourself said that you cannot prove it one way or the other. It's amusing you're on the side of the tard who thinks he can.
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Kyuun is literally the second biggest idiot on this site.
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He's number 1 on my list. Altho Icy is a close second lol
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Nothing can top Jay.
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Be thankful you're not aware of...It.
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Edited by cxkxr: 11/13/2013 1:55:32 PM[quote]Origins Of Species, Charles Darwin. The fossilisation of prehistoric creatures. Kind of blatantly obvious that was what I was referring to.[/quote] And this proves an omnipotent deity didn't create the Universe how? You need to do more than just say "Darwin and dinosaurs". [quote]Also, we're discussing creationism, not the existence of a deity anyway.[/quote] Exactly my point. Burden of proof fallacy. [quote]Strawman out of -blam!-ing nowhere. Point out where I mentioned that God definitely didn't create the universe. Please. I'm aching to know.[/quote] Are you not [i][b]claiming[/b][/i] that an omnipotent deity, [i]for a fact[/i], did not create the Universe? Or do you admit you don't have a damn clue, and that the possibility certainly exists? bc if you cannot acknowledge the possibility, I must say you're being intellectually dishonest.
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Edited by Madman Mordo: 11/13/2013 3:14:39 PM[quote]And this proves an omnipotent deity didn't create the Universe how? You need to do more than just say "Darwin and dinosaurs".[/quote] It disproves creationism, which was the main topic being debated. Supplanting arguments are we now? [quote]Exactly my point. Burden of proof fallacy.[/quote] It's not a fallacy just because it's inconvenient for your argument. If only I could do that for any time someone brings up a solid point. "lolnup fallacy" It's not a fallacy. Proving a negative is. [quote]Are you not claiming that an omnipotent deity, for a fact, did not create the Universe? Or do you admit you don't have a damn clue, and that the possibility certainly exists? bc if you cannot acknowledge the possibility, I must say you're being intellectually dishonest.[/quote] I'm purporting that creationism is a fallacious, logically impaired thesis, that has been disproved countless times. Not "well there is no God." You're strawman-ing right and left here.
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Edited by cxkxr: 11/13/2013 2:34:30 PMI don't think you quite understand what I'm talking about... Creationism isn't particularly referring to the literal explanation of creation derived from the Bible. Altho, I understand your assumption. The upcoming generation of Christians believe that "young earth creationism"(which I think you're referring to) is an embarrassment. With that said, I refer you to the theory of "progressive creationism", it's similar to intelligent design.
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How did they get disproved?
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Origins Of Species.
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The origin of species is a theory. Not a fact.
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So is gravity.
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Again, how does that disprove the existance of God?
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Why do you guys keep brining in this strawman? It debunks creationism, not the existence of God. Two differing strings of logic.
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According to Wikipedia, Creationism is the religious belief that life, the Earth, and the universe are the creation of a supernatural being.
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I know what creationism is, thanks?
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Edited by cxkxr: 11/13/2013 3:44:30 PMCreationism implies God created everything. So if origin of species doesn't disprove God's existence, it certainly doesn't disprove that God created the Universe. And besides, origin of [i]species[/i](or dinosaurs for that matter) has nothing to do with the origin of the Universe/existence. Why can't you comprehend?
