You'd be surprised how many crazies, for some reason, view Northern and Western Europe with fear that we'll become like them. The fact that many of those states not only enjoy the same liberties we do, but also tend to have higher standards of living, I don't see what the problem is. I know Gaara will disagree, but at least he knows they aren't some monolithic authoritarian force and will only argue that their welfare states are untenable given their rising costs. [spoiler]Also cuz he be trollin', and they hatin'...[/spoiler]