Hey Byf, Some things I have noticed in the material presented to the public so far are: The name "Hive" itself is a reference to insects, specifically Bees. Visually speaking this makes a lot of sense. Thralls: As you pointed out in GoD episode 31 the Thralls appear to have chitinous armor on their arms and legs. Interesting to note that their chests are relatively un-protected, their black-brown connective tissue seems sinewy, but not weak. All of them appear to have two fingers, 1 thumb (another reference to 3) and two pincer-like toes, which also seems like a reference to Bees. While they lack eyes they still seem to be able to see, which seems like a design reference to H.R. Giger's design for the xenomorph in Ridley Scotts film [i]Alien[/i]. The definition of Thrall is of one under the power of another. Knights: For lack of a better term I think the sword/gun wielding Hive are Knights and seem to have traits in common with members of the Fallen, though they lack the two extra arms. They either wield guns or swords which is also reminiscent of the Fallen. Queens: Flying and apparently leg-less they have been shown to be manipulators and primary magic users. "Skirt" and armor is made of bones, specifically jaw bones and spines. In earlier concept art they have runic eyes. I suspect Queens are the only "original" part of the race. Another use of the word "Hive" is that of a collective, which when tied to the [i]Alien[/i] styling of the Thrall class and the architecture of their structures, lends to the notion that the Hive is perhaps a race that attempts to absorb the traits of species it encounters and create subspecies or casts to serve out specific purposes. Absorbed human DNA resulted in the Thrall, lowest cast and worker bee, Fallen DNA resulted in aggressive Knights, protector of the more vulnerable Queen. Phogoth seems to be some new creation, obviously hard to control as the Hive itself has him chained up, perhaps to protect themselves from his terrible power. I think he might be the Hive's attempt to absorb the traits of the Cabal as others have mentioned. Caleb McCallister