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Edited by Section Ratio General: 9/24/2013 11:34:58 PM
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Salvation Army says “Gays Need to Be Put to Death”

[quote][url=http://tgvnews.com/2013/06/salvation-army-says-gays-need-to-be-put-to-death/]Christmas, it is the time of the year for holiday shopping, and also hearing the bell ringers for the Salvation Army collection donations. Those donations provide Christmas dinners, clothing, and Christmas toys for children in need. The charity collects millions of dollars in donations every year, and they distribute it to needy families, seniors, and the homeless in keeping with the spirit of the holiday season. The Salvation Army has expressed their Christian beliefs in the past, stating that they do not accept the LGBTQ lifestyle, nor do they stand up for gay marriage. Salvation Army went on record recently, stating that LGBTQ parents should be put to death as the bible instructs. Major Andrew Craibe, a Salvation Army Media Relations Director, went on public radio hosted by journalist Serena Ryan, to discuss a recent call by LGBTQ parents for a boycott of the nonprofit for its anti-gay policies and beliefs. Ryan questioned Craibe about Salvation Story: Salvationist Handbook of Doctrine, the manual used to train Salvation sa1Army “soldiers” and members. Several chapters refer to the sin of homosexuality, including a section that cites Romans 1:18-32, which includes a admonition that homosexuals “deserved to die”; “ Ryan: According to the Salvation Army gay parents deserve death. How do you respond to that, as part of your doctrine?” “Craibe: Well, that’s a part of our belief system.” Ryan: So they should die.” “Craibe: You know, we have an alignment to the Scriptures, but that’s our belief.” “Ryan: You’re proposing in your doctrine that because these parents are gay, that they must die.” “Craibe: Well, well, because that is part of our Christian doctrine “ “Ryan: But how is that Christian? Shouldn’t it be about love?” sa5“Craibe: Well, the love that we would show is about that: consideration for all human beings to come to know salvation…” “Ryan Or die…” “Craibe: Well, yes.” Major Bruce Harmer, the Army’s Communications and Public Relations Secretary recently issued the following statement; “The Salvation Army encompasses a diverse community with a wide range of opinions on human sexuality and other subjects. The senior leadership of The Salvation Army continues to reflect on Christian and Biblical tradition, and especially on the themes of justice and mercy, to further deepen the understandings of our own members and build a more healthy relationship with the LGBTQ community. We pledge to continue to offer services to all and to treat each person with dignity, respect and non-discrimination.” The salvation is willing to take the money from the LGBTQ community, but they aren’t willing to support them. I remember reading a story a year or two ago about the salvation army not supporting the LGBTQ community, so I stopped supporting them. That red bucket they put out every year for Christmas, depends on people like us, to put money in it. They are a charity that depends on donations to help the families in need.sa3 I think it is horrible that a charity admits they think LGBTQ parents should die. It does not matter who you are or what you believe in. No one deserves death. For a charity to wish death upon the LGBTQ community is distasteful, alarming and hurtful. I think the LGBTQ community needs to take a stand against the Salvation Army. If you do not support us, then we do not support you.[/url][/quote] Savin' the country during Christmas, by saying that gay people need to die. Definitely the Christmas spirit of Jesus Christ saying that. Opinions on this? Edit: [url=http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/6/10/salvation-army-says-gays-need-to-be-put-to-death#.UkBUUFeFMjU.facebook]Another source citing the same thing.[/url] [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/26/andrew-craibe-salvation-army-official-gays-put-to-death_n_1628135.html]Source 3[/url] [url=http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/06/salvation-army-official-gays-deserve-death/53885/]Source 4. THe comment: "So Homo is a Nono?" made me lol.[/url] [url=http://www.examiner.com/article/salvation-army-gay-parents-deserve-to-be-put-to-death]Source 5[/url].

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  • Lol None of those sources are reliable.

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    • The voice of one does not speak with the voice of the whole. [url=http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/vw-search/A2AF0257B165B3C085257A28005D5F1E?opendocument]Here [/url]and [url=http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/0/FAB244EBCDF2C9FB85257A290051EC74/$file/Salvation%20Army%20Australia%20response%20regarding%20radio%20interview%20concerning%20homosexuality%20June%202012.pdf]here[/url], the salvation army condemns the statements of this person. Courtesy of Loretta, from the article comments.

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      • Edited by Psy: 10/1/2013 1:51:20 AM
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        -Redacted- Look at Codename 207's post to see why.

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      • Yup, these guys definitely make sense. I mean it's common fact among all Christians amirght? [spoiler]imnotright[/spoiler]

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      • Edited by Dudley Tiddywink: 10/1/2013 1:34:55 AM
        And from now on, my money needs to go to the red cross.

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      • Still have respect for them for doing what they do.

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      • While I may have killed people before, I don't think people should be put to death or anything like what the Salvation Army says.

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      • They are entitled to their opinions, just like everyone else.

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        • Never gave money to them anyway! :D

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          • It's about goddam time that somebody started standing up for the Christian values that this great nation was founded on. Christian rights have been slowly eroded away over the years with gays and lesbians and transgendered people not only gaining acceptance in society, when they should be punished and ridiculed, but getting equal rights under the law and even the right to marriage, a Christian tradition. It's outrageous that the liberal agenda has so successfully entranced so many of our elected representatives into infringing upon Christian rights. I can only hope that is is the start of a push back towards what made America great: Religion, specifically Christian religion, being at the center of society.

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            • Ban Christmas. Simple!

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              • Weird.... I as a Christian wish death on no one, but I am against same sex marriage. I'm two sided to this because on one hand I believe everyone should find who they are happy with, the other is I'm opposed to it because of my religion. Long story short, I accept them for whatever or whoever they are, but it's not my cup of tea.

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                • Just the one guy thinks they should die, not the whole organization. Even if he is a pretty major member, what he says doesn't automatically count for what everyone believes. In the same article a different major Salvation Army member said this: “The Salvation Army encompasses a diverse community with a wide range of opinions on human sexuality and other subjects. The senior leadership of The Salvation Army continues to reflect on Christian and Biblical tradition, and especially on the themes of justice and mercy, to further deepen the understandings of our own members and build a more healthy relationship with the LGBTQ community. We pledge to continue to offer services to all and to treat each person with dignity, respect and non-discrimination.” Are people just ignoring that? Am I missing something?

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                • Edited by Ad Hoc: 9/30/2013 5:44:41 AM
                  They've been like this for years. I still donate to them, because they still [i]do[/i] help people, but I refuse to shop that their stores.

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                • People keep saying that this doesn't represent the Salvation Army as a whole. They may not say gays need to be killed, but they certainly are openly against LGBT rights and equality.

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                • Oh look, an idiot posting something that in no way represents Christianity.

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                • This article is biased as hell, they only spoke to one guy.

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                  • The Salvation Army does too much good in my community, I'm torn as to how I should react to this

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                  • I havent supported them for ten years or so, this isnt news really.

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                  • I'll not be donating anything to them. Simple.

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                    • So I deserve to die becuase I love my bf and probably never will have sex until marriage becuase some gays actually hold traditions? .....

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                    • Seems legit...?

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                    • And this is why everyone hates us Christians

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                    • Well derp, never donating there again.

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                    • Jesus had two Dads, shouldn't they be on their side?

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