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8/27/2013 6:32:11 PM
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Not sure if a video game can reach as far as something that impacted the worlds view and literally became part of human culture. I really doubt it.
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No offense intended here, but this is the kind of thing that a 75-year-old news anchor says, not a person who, by virtue of their visiting and participating in a video gaming forum like Bungie.net, presumably has at least some inkling of more recent pop culture. Though, from the praise you're heaping onto Star Wars, I might suspect that you are you just such a huge fan that the very idea of something being just as impactful offends you. ;-)
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I'm actually not really into Star Wars at all except for a few video games. Star Wars changed the worlds view on space travel, robots, the future and even space itself. An 8 year old from a slum in a third world country who has never seen a television with actual electricity would shoot imaginary laser beams from his fingers while going "Pew Pew" if you uttered the words "Star Wars" to him. The chance of Destiny having that impact on the world? 0.0000000000001%. I'll go as far as to say it WILL NOT happen. In a million different alternate worlds Destiny won't make that impact. In fact, 50% of the world won't think of anything other than their future when they hear the word Destiny. It might turn out to be one of the best games in history, but it will still be a hit scan FPS with free roam and MMO social aspects, it may be revolutionary for consoles, but most of this stuff isn't ground breaking at all. Especially to PC gamers who have seen EVERY "new" element that's being boasted as revolutionary in a previous MMO title. Bungie is simply taking an FPS, a hit scan one at that, probably the lowest form of FPS in 2013, and adding some RPGMMO elements to it. ALL of which have already been in previous games, though most not on console. I probably offended a lot of people by saying this, but it is all true. There probably won't even be ballistics or weather, which is in BF4, a rehashed, reskinned BF3. This stuff isn't very revolutionary to those who have seen it before, and honestly that's my hunch as to why it might not be released on PC. It will get no where near the sales.
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[quote]Star Wars changed the worlds view on space travel, robots, the future and even space itself. An 8 year old from a slum in a third world country who has never seen a television with actual electricity would shoot imaginary laser beams from his fingers while going "Pew Pew" if you uttered the words "Star Wars" to him. [/quote] I think you are massively overstating (or, perhaps, overguessing) the impact of Star Wars on the "world's view." The writings of Isaac Asimov and Ray Bradbury indisputably had greater reach, earlier, and much, MUCH heavier impact on the world's view of science and science fiction than Star Wars ever did. And as far as global reach, well Avatar, Transformers: Dark of the Moon, and The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King were seen by more people than any Star Wars film ever was. And as soon as you show me evidence of some kid who's never seen a television going "pew pew" when he hears "Star Wars," I'll believe it. Until then, I'm gonna go ahead and assume that's a gross overexaggeration you're making to try and add weight to your point. Anyway, this whole debate is kind of irrelevant. I now see why you doubt that Destiny will become a Star Wars- or Harry Potter-level global phenomenon, and that's because you think the game is not very original. Stick with that. Those arguments are much more debatable than "but, but, Star Wars reaches 8-year-olds in third-world slums who have never even heard of electricity."
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To be honest I wasn't trying to argue, hence why I wasn't really sticking to a point. It was more along the lines of rambling my train of thought at the moment. And I saw that Star Wars thing in a documentary about Liberia. Also the reason for things like the avatar being seen by so many people is, well, technology. Now anyone can stream movies from their personal computer, at leisure, for free. Movies in theater's will be much more seen in 2009 then any movie of the 70's. For more reasons then I care to type. Why do you think Sci Fi movies like that made an impact? Because movies like Star Wars paved the industry. Also. "Those arguments are much more debatable than "but, but, Star Wars reaches 8-year-olds in third-world slums who have never even heard of electricity." It was only an argument because you read it that way, and from the look of your last post, you were the one who took offence. Not everyone is being hostile when they disagree with you. You shouldn't try to insinuate that other's do not know how to properly portray their point in an argument and assume they're offended by your post. Especially considering all of your speculation was completely wrong. I didn't shoot down any of your points as if to start an argument nor did I even comment on anything you said in the above post. I simply provided what I thought at the moment. You didn't like my comment, so you insinuated that I should have more information on pop culture then I do, then speculated I'm a Star Wars aficionada, which I am not. I decided to ramble on as to why I thought that Destiny couldn't be ground breaking as Star Wars, for what ever reason my rambling offended you. Be it because your speculation was off point or because you didn't like my thoughts I don't know. Especially considering you hadn't even made a point to contrast with my ramblings for me to even argue with? But you should learn to recognize when someone is arguing with you before you give them lessons on how to do so. Being the internet warrior you are I'm sure this will greatly offend you. Ah well, feel free to correct my grammar or defend your speculation to the death, but you should try to discuss things like this without conflict. You didn't even provide a point for me to argue with, it went from assuming I like Star Wars to stick with your point when you argue, in one post. How you got the assumption we were arguing is beyond the internet. If you're looking for a fight, this probably isn't the place for one.
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I think the statements "surpassing halo" and "approaching Star Wars" fall very much on the same spectrum of accomplishment. Halo is globally known - it doesn't have the same reach as Star Wars but say "Halo" anywhere in the world and people will likely recognize it. If they are able to surpass Halo in global consciousness they will be approaching Star Wars level.
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[quote]If they are able to surpass Halo in global consciousness they will be approaching Star Wars level.[/quote] Yep yep.
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While it could be known my point is that Halo is known, people know what it is. Star Wars isn't just known, it changed our culture as a race. It isn't just I know what Star Wars is, it's Star Wars made the space and Sci Fi genre what it is. There's a difference between being known and changing the way billion of people think. You get my point? It's not being known that made Star Wars so great, it's the fact that it changed the way BILLIONS think. Destiny won't do that.
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You're first part is right on the money.
