This is simply untrue, Nintendo has yet to show that they can make a game that will be critically acclaimed on the market this day and age. They were once a grand company but now they are out of their golden age and hitting reality. They need something original, riding Zelda/Link, Mario and all the others is just digging themselves a grave. As sad as it is, I see Nintendo caving before EA or Ubisoft does.

10 Billion in the bank, rolling on 3DS profits, big hitters and system sellers. DKCR, Metroid Prime 3, Mario Kart Wii, Wii Series, Brain Age, New Super Mario Bros, Pikmin 3. Just because you don't feel like playing their games, doesn't mean people don't love them and they sell really -blam!-ing well. They are not out of their golden age, it's not even a golden age for them, it's just their age, indefinitely. With NSMBU selling nearly 3 Million, which is pretty much the entire installbase of the Wii U, how can you say that it's digging them into a grave? Here's the thing with Nintendo IPs, they have fresh new IPs and games each generation, their big staple games, they are once a system, not rehashed as people say. We won't see NSMB until the Wii U2 or the 4DS when they figure out how to hack our brains and start perceiving that which does not exist. They aren't rehashing their old IPs, it's once a console and each new game is fresh and a unique experience. Unlike most other sequels. New gameplay makes a new game, not new characters. I won't count pre-N64 because that is the start. N64 they had the standard IPs, sure, but they had more than that, all the Rare IPs and tons others. Gamecube they had the standard IPs but they also had Geiss, Pikmin, Wave Race, Eternal Darkness, Doshi the Giant, Chibi Robo, added Prime to their list of staples. NDS brought tons of new IPs as well as their standard games. Wii had all their staples, as well as the Wii series of games and stuff like Punchout, Wario Ware, Xenoblades Chronicles (which may become a staple), Sin and Punishment, Fire Emblem, Epic Yarn Series (Now a staple), DKC (now a staple). We know of a new IP from Shigeru already, as well as X and W101. Why would you expect them to not keep going with arguably their best relative platform yet? This is the first year of Wii U and we've already seen they continue to be at the top of the game, (pun certainly intended). They just also happen to have tons of high quality system selling staples that they make once a console generation. Mario Series includes a shit ton of IPs that just happen to have the Mario name on it.

I never said I didn't like Nintendo, I just grew out of it I guess. I still play my N64 because that's when games were simple lol. But saying Nintendo will outlast companies that almost have infinite amounts of mone like EA and Ubisoft is jumping the gun. And regardless what everyone says, both companies put out quality games

EA and Ubisoft have more money than Nintendo? Nintendo, being a game developing studio, that only does games, and is still in the hardware race and has still the best track records and have just come off of 100 Million sales, who had so much money they just abandoned their system 3 years ago to make room for the second coming of the Revolution. Regardless what you may say, their games are more likely to cause people to stop buying the games than Nintendo's franchises. They have kept higher quality games than any of these companies and none of their major, top of the charts 30 million sales games need to do a million sales to be able to make a profit. If it gets to a point where the industry crashes it'll be in direct response to business practices of EA, Ubi, and Activision. They'd be the first to fall. If it happens it'll be people being sick of paying too high premium prices for shit games seen over and over again. 1983 all over again. The thing here is that Nintendo can still stay above and beyond because of their business practices and higher quality games at a cheaper price with no nicke-and-diming. They'd be one of the few left. Not those that truly do rehash their IPs. People will eventually get sick of that crap. EA when it had a quarterly loss of 300 million fired 600 employees to recoup costs while Iwata, with 2 quarterly of about the same, refused to fire anyone to keep morale up, and easily withstood to ensure they would keep making quality games. They will go under before EA? Nintendo, which has enough money to stay afloat until 2075, without selling off their IPs which would extend that almost indefinitely. Whether you like it or not, they are looking as strong as ever, actually even stronger than they've looked since the N64. They've almost got more capital than all of Sony which has movies, TV, music, phones, a crap ton of stuff.

Ill be 100% honest with you, I genuinely thought they were doing bad with the WiiU tanking and barely getting any games from outside developers. I just feel like they aren't a grown up company, like everything they do is geared to kids and the family audience. I don't mean that in a bad way at all, but the industry is maturing and they make see themselves fall behind the ball. I really believe the WiiU was a bad move, regardless if you say sales are this and that it's crap in terms of hardware, it can't even compete with the 360 and PS3, They put two consoles out for one generation and still fell behind the 360 which is still selling 100k+ units (as of July) in the US alone. My opinion,partially

Can't judge them for unit sales when they are on a 6 month period of not supporting it to ensure higher game quality, as a result of that Marketing stopped as well. You put that image on them because you've wanted to. As a matter of fact they've treated the consumer base more seriously than the others. Also, don't talk about a console in the past tense from it's first 6 months on the market, any of them.

We had quite the argument in this thread didnt we? Lol. I guess your right but I find it hard to believe sales are going to pick up two fold even if they bring out some big games

More like ten fold. Pikmin 3 within weeks in japan has done great boosts and that's from mid July as the latest sales numbers we had where the steady sales tripled. That's before the American release and when it was the only game out for it. Now they've got like 8 new retail games out for it, and a flurry of games in the coming weeks and major system sellers within the next few months. I don't see how you can count Nintendo, of all companies out. If anyone is in trouble it's Sony, they've only just started profiting on the PS3, after all these years. Nintendo has the same amount of money as all of Sony. Shame you don't give the games a try, and the system is imo their best system ever created, relative to their times and competition.

It's just the fact I don't want to drop money on the system. I played the Wii, sure it's fun for like a week but I'd never play it again. That's the reason, plus none of their games catch my eye

Well then say that, not that the system is bad or they are going to fail. You don't represent millions of Nintendo buyers.

Well, I said that because look at what it's competing with now, and what it will be in the future. When developers have to strip down games from a console game to a game for the WiiU you know something is wrong. Even FIFA 13 was stripped, FIFA.

I wouldn't call TLOU a summer action flick.

I would. One with more of a story, but one nonetheless. It's no Expendables, has some depth and good story-telling but it's the same basic concept. Rather, not the most action packed cinematic experience, but it's still an interactive cinematic experience, more drama over action though.

Meh. It's just a game... A third person shooter. With lots of cutscenes. One of my favorites now.

Not calling it a bad game, it obviously did well and was critically acclaimed, I'm just calling it how i see it. It is a very cinematic game is was trying to be one. They knew what it is and aren't trying to hide it, same with Beyond: Two Souls, taking it even further and having high rated actors playing parts, can't deny it's happening.

It's just a type of game. There will always be others. Like my favorite. RPGs.

He said most

He did. The OP's post was about TLOU, as his example, so I only assumed he was also referring to TLOU. Maybe he wasn't. He's pretty intolerant of anything not Nitnendo though...

Don't speak for me when you don't know me. You've obviously not paid much attention and it shouldn't even matter.

Well, when you call the other 2 consoles bad and say Wii U is the best choice, and more powerful, sorry, sure seems like it.