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Edited by BerzerkCommando: 8/15/2013 10:23:15 PM
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[quote]Also what happens to him.[/quote] We know he made it because he trained Palmer. [quote]I know he dies but maybe a clone of him was somehow made.[/quote] There was most likely a clone made, but that clone was made to die. [quote]He didnt die but was put into cryo sleep.[/quote] *facepalm* If you watched the cut scene you see s/he was badly wounded when s/he was still standing. S/he was showing it. Then 6 got shot even more by plasma bolts which would leave plasma burns. Then 6 got stabbed in the chest. Which could hit the heart which would kill him/her. By the time his/her body would be found 6 would have been long dead. [quote]hyper lethal.[/quote] What the ­f­uck is "hyper lethal"?
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  • When I said clone I didn't mean the flash clones, I meant when he was an adult, before he joined noble

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  • Actually, you were wrong about a flashclone of 6 being made. Spartan IIIs were volunteer conscripts. Even as children.

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  • Everything I thought you were saying was credible. I was starting to like you. Then you stated that last question. It's debatable wether 6 died or not his (yes 6 is supposed to be a guy) death was speculated many years ago and no-one was ever able to figure out. I think he survived, Spartans never die and chief, another hyper lethal solider, has yet to die. I personally believe 6 survived just off the fact that he's hyper lethal, he has the ability to kill elites with his bare hands.

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  • [quote]Everything I thought you were saying was credible. I was starting to like you. Then you stated that last question.[/quote] Because you can estimate the measure of a person by one post, no, by one [i]line[/i] alone. 6 has certainly died given Halsey's reflection in the epilogue. And I believe he simply just didn't remember the term "hyper lethal." Honest mistake man, no need to blow it out of proportion :/

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  • [quote] It's debatable wether 6 died or not [/quote] Can you elaborate as he was surrounded by elites,stabbed by an energy sword, and then left on a planet choking with ash without a helmet? [quote] death was speculated many years ago and no-one was ever able to figure out. [/quote] source. [quote] I think he survived, [/quote] So because you think something you want to act like millions of other people are as well and exaggerate based off that. [quote] Spartans never die[/quote] We have over like 800 spartans that wouldn't be able to say otherwise. [quote] chief, another hyper lethal solider[/quote] source [quote] has yet to die.[/quote] So because one person hasn't died another can't die. [quote] I personally believe 6 survived[/quote] In which you are acting like everybody else does as well. [quote] the fact that he's hyper lethal[/quote] How is he hyper lethal? What could he have possibly done to coin that term and what did john do before destroying a halo to get the same term? How come John is the only spartan II to have that term despite them working in groups and all going on the same team based missions [quote] he has the ability to kill elites with his bare hands.[/quote] I want to note forge despite you saying bare hands. Mind you that he killed an arbiter something no spartan has yet to do.

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  • Did you ever go on the forums a little while after reach launched, it was thread after thread of debates. I'm not going back 3 years. Reach told us the 6 was hyper lethal.

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  • Reach never said that and if it did please tell me the level. If i remember right a one time promotion said that.

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  • '“Noble Six. The team's most recent addition.... Hyper-lethal: there's only one other Spartan with that rating...” —Catherine Halsey not sure which level its in but I think it might be the first one

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  • That was never stated in the game and i already brought up questions pertaining to that statement which shows it was just for marketing. A)Why does 6 get this rating out of all the other SIIIs? B) How does John have this and not his teammates or any other SII C)What could be done prior to the destruction of a ring to merit such a term? It doesn't make sense and anybody that would take a few seconds to think would know the only thing chief and six have in common that merits that term is the fact they are being controlled by the player. Even though we knew all about john in the novels bungie never wanted to expand on him in their games because "you are john". You folks are dragging out something that didn't have any seriousness behind it and creating an occult.

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  • I'll post this again, because you can't counter it at all: [quote]I already gave you support retard, I gave you two pieces of evidence that Noble 6 is hyper lethal, the Vidoc and the Firefight voice description. And I never said it was important. This all started because you said Reach never said Noble 6 was hyper lethal, and I showed you that it did. Now, stop ranting about your opinion on how it doesn't make sense. Nobody cares. You asked where in Reach it said Noble 6 was hyper lethal, and I told you where it said that. Noble 6 is hyper lethal canonically. So is Master Chief. Whether you agree on that or not is besides the point, fact of the matter is Bungie said they did. You're getting upset because you asked a question (where in Reach does it say this) and I answered it.[/quote] Whether you agree with it or not, all that matters is that it's a fact that they're both hyper lethal, and you didn't know that. So again, I'll say "It's funny how you forgot that, despite being such an avid Halo fan"

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  • Edited by Haruspis: 8/17/2013 3:03:03 PM
    The issue is that all this is taken from a ViDoc that was designed to present each character of Noble Team to the prospective player, in terms of the narrative context there are [i]a lot[/i] of things that don't make sense. The fact that it's Halsey describing the attributes of Noble Team immediately sets the ball of contradiction rolling since she knew absolutely nothing about the Spartan-IIIs, much less the actual profiles and attributes of each member until she got to Onyx and talks to Kurt about them. We know that the ViDoc doesn't take place at that time because it is narrated in the present tense: [i]"They have found our fortress among the stars. The Covenant are on Reach."[/i] Some quotes about Noble Team that make no sense given the context of the narrative: [quote][Carter] "Born leader. He turned Noble into more than just a collection of Spartans."[/quote] [quote][Kat] "She is brilliant. There are no technical hurdles she can't overcome. But her curiosity borders on insubordination."[/quote] [quote][Jun] "As a sniper, his skills are unmatched."[/quote] [quote][Emile] "Is he bold enough? Without question. But we need courage and patience in equal measure."[/quote] [quote][Six] "The team's most recent addition. My, my. So much black ink. Six has made entire militia groups disappear. Curious. Hyper-lethal. There's only one other SPARTAN with that rating."[/quote] She can't know that Carter was a "born leader" and she [i]certainly[/i] doesn't show this kind of admiration for him in the game where she labels him a "puppet" who is completely incompetent (because he is). She can't know anything about Kat's history as a "billiant" tech-hacker or whatever because all of her previous operations, along with the rest of Noble Team's and the Spartan-IIIs as a whole, are heavily classified and specifically done so in order to prevent Halsey from knowing about Spartans that weren't her's. She most definitely can't say anything about Jun being "unmatched" as a sniper because one of her own Spartan-IIs is the best sniper of all time - Linda managed to snipe 7 pilots out of their Banshees while hanging upside down and using her weapon with 1 hand. [i]That[/i] is a sniper who is unmatched, we are never shown Jun even using a sniper in the canonical aspects of the narrative outside of spotting targets... Same with Emile. She can't know anything about his psychological profile or how "bold" he is or how he is lacking in patience. The one time that she saw Emile before The Package, he was just sat on his ass doing absolutely nothing while Jorge, Carter and Six spoke to Halsey. And lastly, Six. Apparently killing some rebel groups is enough to earn you "hyper-lethal" status, whatever that is. If that's the case then her statement that "there's only one other Spartan with that rating" is completely false because there are [i]loads[/i] of other Spartan-IIs and IIIs who have done as much and more than that. Again, there is absolutely nothing about her one interaction with Noble Team's members prior to The Package that would even give her this amount of knowledge about them as a team. The ViDoc has to be divorced from the narrative context of the game and treated only as a marketing tool to introduce the player to the characters of Noble Team. There are [i]way[/i] too many inconsistencies that mount up if this were to be considered an actual canonical scene outside the game and there is absolutely no evidence to support these claims made by Halsey about things like Kat being "brilliant", or Carter being a "born leader", or Six being "hyper-lethal" when other Spartans have done as much and more than him.

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  • None of the stuff in the vidoc even made it in the game so why are you going to pick one line and act as that means anything? Its just a voice in firefight prior to MP being canon so that still doesn't explain anything. [quote]fact that they're both hyper lethal, and you didn't know that.[/quote] It isn't because you want to press on your two points without addressing mine. [quote]"It's funny how you forgot that, despite being such an avid Halo fan"[/quote] Can't forget something that was never stated.

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  • Sigh, you are literally too stupid for me to even want to continue this conversation. You seem to lack basic understandings of English. Have a nice day, retard.

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  • I don't think you can call a person whos questions you are avoiding stupid.

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  • Edited by Halo 4 Fan: 8/17/2013 2:14:58 PM
    I'm not avoiding your question, dipshit. You don't HAVE a question. Do you lack the ability to read? Carefully read this again: Stop ranting about your opinion on how it doesn't make sense. Nobody cares. You asked where in Reach it said Noble 6 was hyper lethal, and I told you where it said that. Noble 6 is hyper lethal canonically. So is Master Chief. Whether you agree on that or not is besides the point, fact of the matter is Bungie said they did.

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  • [quote] I'm not avoiding your question, dipshit. You don't HAVE a question. [/quote] "How is he hyper lethal? What could he have possibly done to coin that term and what did john do before destroying a halo to get the same term? How come John is the only spartan II to have that term despite them working in groups and all going on the same team based missions" I've brought that up from the beginning. [quote] Stop ranting about your opinion on how it doesn't make sense. [/quote] I have 30 friends i can invite to this thread that will ask the exact same thing so i know i am not the only one to ask questions. if you want me to bring them here i can. [quote] You asked where in Reach it said Noble 6 was hyper lethal, and I told you where it said that. [/quote] Nobody has ever used a firefight voice as a canon reference. all it is doing is trying to make him look badass it isn't actually reflecting on anything. If it was you should have been able to answer how he became hyper lethal already. [quote] So is Master Chief. [/quote] How is he hyper lethal and his teammate aren't? [quote] Bungie said they did.[/quote] Yea in a promotion and firefight voice. not in a book or campaign

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  • Yup, just what I thought. No response.

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  • Edited by Grey101: 8/17/2013 10:14:57 PM
    [quote]You haven't confirmed anything so once again start showing some support instead of making statements. [quote]keep crying over people who don't agree exactly with what you say.[/quote] Which is what you are doing. Funny how people want to cling to this hyper lethal thing despite it not making any sense and never being said in canon. I am pretty sure bungie never intended it to be anything important or else they would have invested in it.[/quote] And Chronarch commented as well but you seem to have ignored that. [quote]The issue is that all this is taken from a ViDoc that was designed to present each character of Noble Team to the prospective player, in terms of the narrative context there are [i]a lot[/i] of things that don't make sense. The fact that it's Halsey describing the attributes of Noble Team immediately sets the ball of contradiction rolling since she knew absolutely nothing about the Spartan-IIIs, much less the actual profiles and attributes of each member until she got to Onyx and talks to Kurt about them. We know that the ViDoc doesn't take place at that time because it is narrated in the present tense: [i]"They have found our fortress among the stars. The Covenant are on Reach."[/i] Some quotes about Noble Team that make no sense given the context of the narrative: [quote][Carter] "Born leader. He turned Noble into more than just a collection of Spartans."[/quote] [quote][Kat] "She is brilliant. There are no technical hurdles she can't overcome. But her curiosity borders on insubordination."[/quote] [quote][Jun] "As a sniper, his skills are unmatched."[/quote] [quote][Emile] "Is he bold enough? Without question. But we need courage and patience in equal measure."[/quote] [quote][Six] "The team's most recent addition. My, my. So much black ink. Six has made entire militia groups disappear. Curious. Hyper-lethal. There's only one other SPARTAN with that rating."[/quote] She can't know that Carter was a "born leader" and she [i]certainly[/i] doesn't show this kind of admiration for him in the game where she labels him a "puppet" who is completely incompetent (because he is). She can't know anything about Kat's history as a "billiant" tech-hacker or whatever because all of her previous operations, along with the rest of Noble Team's and the Spartan-IIIs as a whole, are heavily classified and specifically done so in order to prevent Halsey from knowing about Spartans that weren't her's. She most definitely can't say anything about Jun being "unmatched" as a sniper because one of her own Spartan-IIs is the best sniper of all time - Linda managed to snipe 7 pilots out of their Banshees while hanging upside down and using her weapon with 1 hand. [i]That[/i] is a sniper who is unmatched, we are never shown Jun even using a sniper in the canonical aspects of the narrative outside of spotting targets... Same with Emile. She can't know anything about his psychological profile or how "bold" he is or how he is lacking in patience. The one time that she saw Emile before The Package, he was just sat on his ass doing absolutely nothing while Jorge, Carter and Six spoke to Halsey. And lastly, Six. Apparently killing some rebel groups is enough to earn you "hyper-lethal" status, whatever that is. If that's the case then her statement that "there's only one other Spartan with that rating" is completely false because there are [i]loads[/i] of other Spartan-IIs and IIIs who have done as much and more than that. Again, there is absolutely nothing about her one interaction with Noble Team's members prior to The Package that would even give her this amount of knowledge about them as a team. The ViDoc has to be divorced from the narrative context of the game and treated only as a marketing tool to introduce the player to the characters of Noble Team. There are [i]way[/i] too many inconsistencies that mount up if this were to be considered an actual canonical scene outside the game and there is absolutely no evidence to support these claims made by Halsey about things like Kat being "brilliant", or Carter being a "born leader", or Six being "hyper-lethal" when other Spartans have done as much and more than him.[/quote]

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  • It doesn't matter if they don't explain it or not! Who cares? It's just a small detail to make the two characters badass. The point is it's canon, Bungie said it. Just because you don't like the detail, doesn't mean you can pick and choose what is canon and what's not. It's a DESCRIPTION in the game, not the actual voice itself, dumbass (I've said this multiple times). The DESCRIPTION says he's hyper lethal. The only reason you're arguing this is because you're too stubborn and arrogant to just admit you forgot one detail. Please, bring your 30 "friends" over here. I'd love to see this.

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  • '“Noble Six. The team's most recent addition.... Hyper-lethal: there's only one other Spartan with that rating...” —Catherine Halsey not sure which level its in but I think it might be the first one

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  • Edited by Halo 4 Fan: 8/16/2013 10:15:04 PM
    Hyper Lethal is a term that Halsey uses to refer to 6. Stating that he is a "Hyper Lethal Vector" while pondering that there is only one other Spartan to achieve that title, presumably Master Chief. Basically he's a badass, covie-stomping, brilliant, and resourceful killing machine. "Noble Six. The team's most recent addition... my, my. So much black ink... Six has made entire militia groups disappear. Curious... "hyper lethal". There's only one other Spartan with that rating." -Halsey

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  • In a video designed purely for marketing and it isn't said anywhere else in canon.

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  • Edited by Halo 4 Fan: 8/16/2013 10:29:18 PM
    It was an official vidoc by Bungie. And in his Firefight voice description, it says he has the "voice of a hyper lethal vector" It's funny how you forgot that, despite being such an avid Halo fan

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  • Being an avid man of common sense it is obvious that the only reason noble 6 is hyper lethal is because of the player and not him.

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  • Doesn't change the fact that he was hyper lethal. Why are you even arguing this? just accept the fact that you didn't know something.

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