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6/23/2013 9:37:25 AM
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Thats what terrorists yell before blowing themselves up. No wonder he got shot
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No it's not. "Allah Akbar" is the same as saying "Praise the lord" but the Media views it as a terrorist slogan
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To be fair, the Takbir is often used by extremists.
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Well yeah it is, sadly. so i can under stand why it can be viewed as a Terrorist saying
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Edited by Mags: 6/25/2013 3:49:18 AMIn a lot of execution videos released by groups such as AQI, the Taliban, or al-Shabaab, after the act the Takbir is usually said numerous times. In other instances, it has been said before and during a terrorist attack; such as, the Fort Hood shooting or on recordings found in the wreckage of Flight 93. The Takbir is intended as a religious statement to show or demonstrate faith, especially when the person is extremely happy or in a tough situation. Sadly, the phrase is used so much by extremists, it gets this negative connotation to it. It's understandable why one would immediately think terrorism, but it's also not okay to think that anyone who says it is a terrorist.
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Edited by Oleg The Great: 6/25/2013 3:12:26 AMI know what it means. It actually means "God is Great" [b]BUT [/b]Thats what terrorists yell before blowing themselves up
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I'd imagine more non-terrorists yell it than terrorists ever will
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Look at the context. An [b]unknown [/b]guy [b]yells [/b]"Allahu Akbar" in a [b]restroom[/b]. Thats seems [b]terrorist'y [/b]to me -------------------------------------------- Obviously the minority of Islamic adhearers are terrorists
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You seem terroristy! but he just shot him, no evidence of a threat other than a man shouting 'God is great', which really is just shooting someone because of a stereotype
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Edited by Oleg The Great: 6/25/2013 3:12:00 AMIts wasn't in America or the UK. It was in a country that has common terrorist activity in and around its boarders, people just don't wanna take chances. Its not stereotyping but being cautious. Heres a nice link for you ---> http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/terrorism/terrisraelsum.html
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Being cautious is not an excuse for shooting someone based on hearing a language you associate with terrorism, and it is stereotyping because the only reason he shot him is because of the language he said the words in. Had he said 'God is great' in English, French, Spanish, or Hebrew, the man wouldn't have done a damn thing. He heard "Allahu Akbar", thought "TERRORISM!!!!" and shot a guy
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Edited by Oleg The Great: 6/25/2013 7:03:27 AMYou don't yell I have a Bomb in Airports or Airplanes You don't yell I have a gun in Government buildings or White House You don't yell I'm a Christian in Iraq or Saudi Arabia ---People will take your word for it and shoot you! You don't yell "Allahu Akbar" in a country that's [b]constantly [/b]getting TERRORIZED by people who are RADICAL Muslims who speak Arabic and blow themselves the f*ck up. If you do, theres a good chance you will get shot! Its called being cautious. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9bc_1211287668 <--- Suicide bomber killed before getting to Jerusalem and theres many more but I dont feel like posting them. And some are graphic and before the bombs go off the terrorists yell "Allahu Akbar"
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Yelling "I have a gun/bomb" is a clear indication that you are armed and are dangerous Yelling that your a Christian in Iraq might not be smart, but you shouldn't expect to be shot for it, and yelling that God is great in Arabic most certainly isn't grounds for you to be shot dead in a supposedly civilised nation. The fact is that someone shot someone dead based solely on the language he said something in. He didn't know if he was armed, he didn't know who he was, he didn't know his intentions - all he knew was that he shouted "Allahu Akbar". "Allahu Akbar" isn't threatening language, it isn't an indication of anything beyond a devout muslim. I have muslim friends on Facebook and they post the phrase quite often. During the Eid celebrations, I hear it shouted if I'm out in the right areas of town - its an incredibly common thing to be shouted in celebration. Its like you yelling "Merry Christmas" and a Muslim shooting you because Christian nations have been invading in the Middle East lately, and you just announced you're probably Christian. Yes I can see that he might be put on edge by hearing the phrase, but given that the man had nothing on him to indicate he was a terrorist - shooting him is murder based on a fear of another culture
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Edited by Oleg The Great: 6/25/2013 7:42:06 AMChristians are killed quite often in Muslim nations. Saudi Arabia actually has a death penalty if you become a Christian or an adhearer to any other religion except Islam. I understand that saying "God is Great" in Arabic is harmless. What I'm hoping you understand is that Israel is constantly being attacked by Terrorists who don't think twice about blowing themselves up. So when someone says the key word the guards are on alert and ready for action. They can't risk being wrong or else. And this was at a Jewish Holy Site Key words can be harmless but deadly. For example, Jews being "[i]sent to the showers[/i]" in WWII or during the Great Purge where communist leaders were sent out accused or killed with no forewarning. You don't live in an area with constant terrorism so you wouldn't understand why people are on edge about this key word because they know that, that could be a suicide bomber. Suicide bombers are constantly bombing the Israeli borders. BTW I too have Muslim friends
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Edited by RIP delta: 6/25/2013 8:06:31 AMThen would you not agree that if the issue is constant, the man would be extensively trained and versed in situations like this? You simply can't just open fire after hearing the 'key words'. They should pique your interest - make you investigate, not just kill whoever said them. And I dunno....Manchester [i]did[/i] get bombed by the IRA. I'm terribly on edge all the time here. I hear a hint of an Irish accent and I'm hitting the kerb and yelling "TERRORIST" as loud as they can. Nothing ever happens and people tend to give me strange looks
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Edited by Oleg The Great: 6/25/2013 8:55:09 AMI guess this is something you might never understand... -_- Read or [i]skim [/i]this article titled "[b]In Israel, staying alert for terror is a way of life[/b]" Then you might understand what its like living in a place with constant terror attacks and how people are shaped around it and your opinion will be changed (hopefully) http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/04/16/israel-approach-terrorism/2087617/
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I understand, but you [i][b]can't[/i][/b] just shoot someone as soon as you hear those words. That is more or less the equivalent of banning Islam from Israel (which admittedly they would probably love to do). You are focusing on the fact that terrorism is a real threat, which is fine - but you are massively overlooking what actually happened in this instance. As I keep saying, someone was killed for saying nothing threatening, only something perceived to be linked to terrorism (and in fact is a very very very very common phrase). Living in a dangerous place doesn't grant you leave to be negligent. If I was a security guard in a high profile, potential terrorist target building, and I killed someone based on these circumstances, I'd be in prison for murder.
