Again, as I just said to Commando, you've completely ignored the majority of what I've outlined in favour of one sentence in the post. Read the whole post this time, realise I'm right in the issues I've highlighted, and tell me that doesn't affect gamers like me and my friends. I dare you.

Sure it affects gamers like you and your friends, I'm just struggling to give a damn.

Exactly, and that's the problem with half of the people in this thread. Just because it's doesn't affect them, it apparently doesn't matter. But when I've seen first-hand how many angry comments about this system have turned up, and how many people are voicing what I'm also saying here? Clearly there are a [i]lot[/i] of people upset about this. Just dismissing a relatively large portion of gamers who share games with friends and family isn't something that should just be looked over, just because you don't share games yourself.

It's not just because it doesn't affect me, it's also because you're complaining about not getting content for free.

If I buy a game for the Xbox 360, I have the ability to lend it to a friend or allow my brother to play it if he wants a go, but doesn't want it enough to buy it. That's fair game. If I buy a DVD, I have the ability to lend it to a friend or allow my family to watch it whenever they want, without charge. I bought the disc, I'm allowed to let people borrow it for free. If I buy a CD, I have the ability to lend it to a friend or allow my family to listen to it, or even copy the songs onto their iTunes libraries. I bought the disc, I'm allowed to let people borrow it to give the music a listen. And yet, if I buy an Xbox One game and want to lend it to my brother, or a friend, he'll/they'll have to pay full price to use it while I play other games, even if they only want to play it for an hour or two to see if they like it, or just because they want to play something a little different. And suddenly I'm complaining about not getting content for free? Again, if you're not used to the concept of sharing, then I totally understand your point of view. But I'm afraid I have to tell you: you're wrong.

Yeah, you are complaining about not getting the content for free. Or, not being able to give the content to your friends for free. Anyway, I assume that a big part of the motivation for this move by Microsoft is so that you don't have to actually put a disc in every time you want to play a game. For them to be able to do that, you have to tie the game to the account and/or console, otherwise the game could make the rounds a hundred times and the developer/publisher would only get paid once. By the way, as far as I'm aware, here in Australia you're only legally entitled to make a single digital copy of any content you own (provided that the copy is in an appropriate format), and I imagine the law's similar in the States, or where ever you live, so sharing a CD around for others to copy would actually be piracy. Similarly, lending somebody a game when you have the ability to play it yourself would also be illegal, as far as I'm aware.

I'm not sure what the law states regarding this in the UK, but I'm aware that sharing CDs and DVDs with friends is illegal, as is lending games, even to other members of your family. But it's one of those laws which absolutely no-one pays attention to, and if you're only doing it lightly (i.e. not giving it to any random person you meet to borrow every day) no-one is going to stop you. The police don't care about it, and likely do it too. Even judges and Lords will share DVDs with friends and family. It's one of those laws you can pass off as being useless in this respect. However, copying the game to the HDD for a friend, without them paying, is illegal, and I understand the block in this respect. However, the easiest way for Microsoft to allow friends to share games is to make it so that games don't HAVE to be installed to the HDD, and that you CAN play them from the disc. As gaming becomes more focused on the digital world, with downloadable games becoming more and more popular, I suppose people like me are going to have to get with the times. Soon, even DVDs will be irrelevant. Everything will be digital because it will all be so much faster and easier. But until then, I should be allowed to take a game to a friend's house, play it on their console, and take it home with me, without having to install it onto their HDD, sign into my profile, play it, sign out of my profile, uninstall the game, then recover my profile to my console when I get home. It's impractical and you have to admit that it's a poor move for households with multiple consoles. I mean, what's the law on game ownership if my brother and I both chip in half of the cost? It's not illegal to share then, because we're both the owners of it. We've done that a few times for games we both think look alright, but won't play a lot. Saves money for us both, and we get a new game. But the above is beside the point. Yes, sharing games is illegal. But no-one cares. I'm not going to get arrested, fined or prosecuted in any way for letting my blockmate play on Far Cry 3. Fact.

Ah, so you're upset that they won't let you pirate because it's only [i]light[/i] piracy? diddums

Have you ever borrowed a game from a friend or family member? Because you're a criminal if that's the case. Have you ever borrowed a DVD from a friend or family member? Because you're a criminal if that's the case. Have you ever borrowed a CD from a friend or family member? Because you're a criminal if that's the case. Have you ever lent a DVD, CD, game, or anything of the like to a friend or family member? Because you're all criminals if you have. Certain piracy laws are absolutely bonkers. If anything, sharing games and the like is a benefit to the developers/producers, because it opens the opportunity for a bigger fan base, and more units sold as a result. Perfect example of this: a friend of mine let me borrow his Linkin Park CD a few years ago when I'd never heard of them. I loved the album so much that I went out and bought the other album they had out at the time. Since then, I've been to two of their concerts and bought every one of their albums, and some merchandise. None of this would have happened if I hadn't been lent the disc. Like I said, piracy laws, in certain instances, are batshit crazy and utterly ridiculous. Claiming it's against the law to share something with your household, when it was the household which bought it, is idiotic on the government's behalf. By definition, watching a film with your family or friends when only one of you paid for the DVD is piracy and unauthorised playback.

Yeah, no, you don't get to decide when piracy benefits the creator of the content. That's their decision to make. [quote]By definition, watching a film with your family or friends when only one of you paid for the DVD is piracy and unauthorised playback.[/quote]lolno