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so guns should be allowed but drugs shouldn't?
please someone, explain the logic behind this because they seem like basically the same arguments to me.
Note: 'drugs' means all drugs, not just weed.
EDIT: i am NOT saying drugs and guns are the same, but that the arguments people use to ban one can easily be used against the other.
[u]arguments for banning either guns or drugs:[/u]
they can be dangerous to inexperienced users
they can harm or kill you and others
[u]arguments for not banning guns or drugs:[/u]
using them is a fun activity and when used properly and safely pose little risk to the user (note: in the case of drugs 'used properly and safely' does not include getting addicted)
a person has a right to the freedom to own and/or use them so long as they are not putting others in any harm or otherwise infringing their rights.
why should we treat them differently?
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17 Replies in this Sub-ThreadDrugs aren't used in protecting yourself from the criminal element, wildlife, or a tyrannical government.
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Making yourself look like a fool isn't going to rile me up, it's going to make me feel bad at how pathetic you are. There is no such thing as absolute freedom. You're either free or you aren't. That is where you're wrong. We fight to protect our freedoms, but they are not granted to us. "A free people claim their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." -Thomas Jefferson [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sNWbiAMf80&feature=player_detailpage#t=473s]Freedom has always existed[/url] Thomas Jefferson wanted the Constitution to free slaves but it wouldn't have been ratified if they included it. He treated his slaves very well and that doesn't make him a hypocrite. Slaves were vital for the continuation of this country. Extremist? Far from it. I'd say oppressing people is extreme, especially when you lock them up over a harmless plant. What have I declared openly in the past that you consider extreme? I can't wait for a response. It is when you don't have the authority to restrict free people. Infringing on freedoms is absolutely oppression, and nothing you say will ever prove that incorrect. Do you know what inalienable means?
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Edited by M37h3w3: 4/25/2013 2:55:12 AM[quote]Making yourself look like a fool isn't going to rile me up, it's going to make me feel bad at how pathetic you are.[/quote] Oh noes. An idiotic fool on the internet thinks I'm a fool and pathetic. Lemme go eat a quart of chocolate ice cream. [quote]There is no such thing as absolute freedom. You're either free or you aren't.[/quote] So the concept of a grey area just completely escapes you. [quote]That is where you're wrong. We fight to protect our freedoms, but they are not granted to us.[/quote] Because I totally had to go fight that boar trying to take away my freedom of speech this morning. [quote]Thomas Jefferson wanted the Constitution to free slaves but it wouldn't have been ratified if they included it. He treated his slaves very well and that doesn't make him a hypocrite. Slaves were vital for the continuation of this country.[/quote] I didn't call out Jefferson. But I suppose you would mistake thinking that I did. Illiteracy is a horrible thing. [quote]Extremist? Far from it. I'd say oppressing people is extreme,[/quote] Except when your definition of oppression is extreme. [quote]especially when you lock them up over a harmless plant.[/quote] Cannabis isn't the only drug that people use. [quote]What have I declared openly in the past that you consider extreme? I can't wait for a response.[/quote] Go look at your post history. Close your eyes, spin around in a circle and poke your computer screen. 99% sure that whatever it lands on is extreme. [quote]It is when you don't have the authority to restrict free people.[/quote] Except that the government was given the authority to do so. By the people. [quote]Infringing on freedoms is absolutely oppression, and nothing you say will ever prove that incorrect.[/quote] You talk like you're talking about some objective concept when you're talking about your subjective opinion. Hell, the Supreme Court literally says your wrong too. [quote]Do you know what inalienable means?[/quote] Yes.
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