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4/21/2013 3:55:59 PM
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well, if the precursors are involved with all their tech, superman is boned. The Halos could take him out as well.
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Unless they can't. Superman's survived worse. And I doubt the precursors could take an infinite-strength punch.
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Actually yes, they almost certainly could. Precursor tech is literally indestructible through any means other than a Halo pulse. Superman would just hurt his hand. And then be utterly annihilated by forces impossible for the human mind to comprehend. Freaking Cthulhu man, it's basically Cthulhu.
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>Literally indestructible though any means other than a Halo pulse? Has this been proven? That it's completely undestructible? Or are we assuming this through them surviving through some crazy shit and then saying nothing can destroy them?
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The only reason a Halo Pulse can destroy them is because it is a very specific kind of energy that is able to break the bonds of neural physics. Superman is unimaginably powerful, but he does not have powers of that nature. Precursor artifacts are basically woven from the fabric or spacetime, by their very nature conventional fore cannot destroy them.
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Superman patched a hole in reality with his static electricity.
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.....God I hate comic book logic. I remember the golden age where superman could be taken out by an artillery shell, and now he is patching up the -blam!-ing universe with static electricity. I give up. He would obviously win, because comic book superheros are always just powerful enough to beat whatever they are fighting, even if it's God himself.
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>LOOK LOOK PRECURSORS ARE UNBEATABLE >Actually Superman can do this >EURGH COMICS ARE SO OP
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Lol so much this.
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Well, at least the precursors sort of make sense within their own setting. Most of the crap superman has pulled is just ridiculous. Closing tears in spacetime with static electricity? that doesn't even make any sense. Hell, didn't he once go back in time by reversing the Earth's spin?
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Closing tears in space time with static electricity is somewhat plausible. Why? Simple, like I've said previously Superman can move very fast. So, rub two things moving at say 10 times faster than light and ALOT of static electricity is produced, which will obviously give off a helluva lot of energy to fix it. And that was in the 1980's movie. Not only is that non canon at all, it is still pre-crisis SUperman who is, admittedly OP. But Post-Crisis isn't as OP.
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[quote]Actually yes, they almost certainly could. Precursor tech is literally indestructible through any means other than a Halo pulse. Superman would just hurt his hand. And then be utterly annihilated by forces impossible for the human mind to comprehend. Freaking Cthulhu man, it's basically Cthulhu.[/quote] The forerunners declared the precursor's stuff indestructible because they couldn't break it. Saying they're completely invulnerable is a fallacy and also turns this into one of those "unstoppable force meets immovable object" scenarios. In which case, according to Superman, both sides surrender.
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Precursor artifacts are not made of ordinary matter, they are weaved from the fabric of spacetime itself, something called neural physics. Ordinary attacks literally cannot destroy it, it just isn't possible. You said it is an unstoppable force meets an immovable object scenario. It isn't. It is an almost unstoppable force hitting a completely immovable object. We all know how that has to end.
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Edited by Lord Keksworth: 4/21/2013 4:18:45 PM[quote]Precursor artifacts are not made of ordinary matter, they are weaved from the fabric of spacetime itself, something called neural physics.[/quote] We've talked that to death, broseph, read the rest of the thread. I've sort of accepted at this point that neural physics might as well be God at this point since it can evidently let the precursors do absolutely anything. [quote]Ordinary attacks literally cannot destroy it, it just isn't possible.[/quote] Proof? [quote]You said it is an unstoppable force meets an immovable object scenario. It isn't. It is an almost unstoppable force hitting a completely immovable object. We all know how that has to end.[/quote] Superman's strength isn't [i]almost[/i] infinite though. If he hits the precursors with all his strength, that [i]is[/i] infinite force hitting it. Unstoppable force. Meeting a theoretically immovable object. We have only speculation on that last bit though.
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Edited by MendicantBill : 4/21/2013 4:35:20 PMYou cannot throw a punch with infinite force that makes no sense. And before you turn that around on me allow me to reiterate: Precursor tech is not matter, it is governed by rules completely unlike that of what we know of the laws of nature. You keep telling me to prove that precursor tech is completely invulnerable, I can't all I have to go on is the word of an ancient alien race that studied the hell out of precursor artifacts for millennia, and came to that conclusion. I am inclined to believe them.
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[quote]You cannot throw a punch with infinite force that makes no sense.[/quote] His strength is infinite. He can punch however hard he damn well wants. [quote]And before you turn that around on me allow me to reiterate: Precursor tech is not matter, it is governed by rules completely unlike that of what we know of the laws of nature.[/quote] Then how do we know they'll affect Superman at all? Maybe they'd just phase right through each other. [quote]You keep telling me to prove that precursor tech is completely invulnerable, I can't all I have to go on is the word of an ancient alien race that studied the hell out of precursor artifacts for millennia, and came to that conclusion. I am inclined to believe them.[/quote] They studied the precursors for millennia and still only have vague guesswork to go on. If I find an object somewhere, and keep trying to break it and fail to do so, and I declare it to be unbreakable, does that make it so? Just because the forerunners couldn't break the precursors' tech doesn't mean they're utterly indestructible to all forms of damage.
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>You cannot through a punch with infinite force that makes no sense Well if you have infinite mass, which you attain by moving Faster than light, then yes it is perfectly possible.
