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This law would have made it even stupider.
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Edited by tntbabin: 4/18/2013 3:52:58 AMI really hope you're trolling. America is no more stupid than the rest of the world. I'm starting to get pissed at people acting like America is so much dumber anywhere else in the world.
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Come on, everybody knows that American politics is particularly stupid.
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It's true. American politics is stupid. *Recalls Senator who filibuster'd his own bill.*
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Freedom isn't stupid, its smart.
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Like the freedom to eat babies? Sounds pretty goddamn stupid to me.
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The only stupid thing about what you said is believing that would be a freedom.
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That impedes on the child's right to live. Freedom in interaction between people is mutual. That's the whole -blam!-ing point of it. If you're going to spout off this insatiable crap than just leave. Yes, politics in GENERAL is full of shit, but trying to ban weapons will not stop violent crime. Look at Switzerland. They have a fully armed population with military weapons yet have very little violent crime.
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Edited by Seggi: 4/18/2013 8:13:39 AMAnd being able to buy a gun without undergoing a background check violates the rights of others to live in a society in which only those who pass background checks are permitted to own firearms. Whether any measure to stop gun crime like this should or should not be implemented is entirely contingent on whether or not it works and the costs of implementing it, not whether or not braindead hicks can spout off loudly enough about their freedumbs being violated. Also, I'm pretty sure all Swiss gun purchases require a background check and registry.
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But they already have a BG system in place in the US.
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[quote]Also, I'm pretty sure all Swiss gun purchases require a background check and registry.[/quote] You're just pulling things out of your ass. Nice strawman as well. It doesn't apply to me though because I don't own a weapon and don't plan on buying one.
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What strawman? [quote]You're just pulling things out of your ass.[/quote] I was just going off what a couple of Swiss friends of mine have told me, though the internet seems to corroborate it.
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http://www.volokh.com/2013/04/15/the-pro-gun-provisions-of-manchin-toomey-are-actually-a-bonanza-of-gun-control/ the bill would have done nothing but install gun control, and would not have resulted n lesser crime.
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I don't need to prove anything to exercise a natural right and you're a fool for believing it would have done any good, only further infringed and hindered responsible citizens.
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>natural right hahahahaha
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Yes, the right to defend myself is a natural one.
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implying natural rights exist
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How do you think you can even type that?
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What, is "we hold these truths to be self-evident" really a sufficient justification for something's existence to you? You can just as well make that argument for the existence of Batman.
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You are free to say whatever you want, no one can take that from you, you derived that right from nature.
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I'm pretty sure killing you would take that ability away.
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That is tyranny and isn't an argument.
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Edited by Seggi: 4/18/2013 11:00:51 AM[quote]You are free to say whatever you want, no one can take that from you[/quote] This is a patently false statement given the above. [quote]you derived that right from nature.[/quote] And if you think this is true, feel free to actually demonstrate that derivation.
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It's 100% truth.
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prove it dickface