This post is "equalism", though. See, if you "stop there" every time you see something you might not agree with, you end up only listening to things that validate your opinions. That creates an "echo chamber", where your own opinions simply amplify each other until you think that everyone in the world agrees with you. This creates a false sense of entitlement, because you think that everyone thinks you're right. It helps to read other people's opinions, even if you don't agree with them.

Thanks for incorrectly psychoanalyzing my intent. It isn't that I disagree with the message, I would have thought that, you being an insightful individual, would have inferred it from my "if it isn't equalism, I ain't buying it" comment, and the subsequent "I'm sure she makes valid points" statement, but it isn't about that. As her opening line suggests, her audience is one that intended for [i]men who think that by treating women as equals, they have something to lose.[/i] And I am not a part of that audience.

So being a dick in your opening reply was the right thing to do instead of just being supportive of equality. okay

"Being a dick" doesn't constitute a valid argument, and ad hominems are actually pretty looked down upon in legitimate discussions. I was offended, yes, that a woman was trying to "pitch" the idea of human rights, and responded without sugar-coating or dressing up the fact of the matter. If speaking about the truth constitutes being a dick, then we are a sorry lot. It's a sensitive issue, and a battered housewife, or a single mom that got fired for being pregnant, hearing that another feminist was, essentially, asking permission from the male community to be considered equals, in the form of an advertisement, would likely disapprove as well. You tell me which sounds better, the fired single mom coming back to her boss and saying : "Oh, hi Mr. Boss, I came back to tell you that maybe you could look at how seeing me as an equal could benefit you, too?" Or "Hi Mr. Boss, seeing as I have kept up with my job, have not committed any crime, and had set no precedent for my dismissal, I'm taking you to court for a violation of my civil rights. I'm a woman, and I deserve to be treated with equal regard as a man." I'm the guy who vehemently argued that the latter is the only just course of action. Call me a dick if you want, I don't really care.

Right because disagreeing with an opinion that's non-offensive in nature makes it okay to be a dick to that person I smart too boy

u r da moast dumester pursin i hav met evar. Quote you: [quote]Right because disagreeing with an opinion that's non-offensive in nature makes it okay to be a dick to that person [/quote] Quote me: [quote]I was offended, yes, that a woman was trying to "pitch" the idea of human rights[/quote] I have just as much of a right to be offended about her post as any women has. Know why? Because we're equals. If I heard of someone posting "Hey guys, please give the African American community a chance" It would offend me, too. Because getting on your knees for your rights, instead of standing up for them, has never worked, and it's offensive to the entire movement to do so. Note that if you want to continue basing replies on the relativistic nature of what is "okay" and who are "dicks" you've reached something of an impasse, because (while you haven't stated that you are) if you are an equalist, you must give me the same ability to be offended as any group, and if you are not an equalist, then your argument is moot, because it is safe to assume that the lopsided nature of your beliefs benefits yourself first, and not for any logical reason.

Right because people totally get taken seriously and can expect a reasonable reply to their dickish comments when they're a dick for no good reason because that's totally logical Socialization, you're not doing it right

Socialization !=logical debate. Butthurt and unpopularity are common side-effects of being candid. I'd like to think I'm smart enough to know that being nice and smiling will get me liked all the time, I know I'm smart enough to see that if I did that, people would like me for the wrong reasons. Don't worry, I'm not trying to get you to like me, I'm trying to get you to see my point, and if you refuse to give my stance absolutely any credibility, then I agree to disagree.

Yeah because the average person will lend their ear to someone being a dick This is a lesson that I'm teaching you, child, and you must learn it in order to be taken seriously by anybody, anywhere

5/10 for being beating the name-calling horse and sticking to your guns. Plus condescension! Keep on keeping on.