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3/3/2013 3:56:48 AM
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Almost certainly. But what is truly scary, as Harlow mentioned, is that people don't label the Norway shooting terrorism. It was a fundamentalist Christian with almost the same goals as Islamic terrorists, yet nobody (I'm looking at you Fox) called it terrorism. I don't know what's worse, the fact that any act of violence by a Muslim is terrorism, or the fact that violence cannot be terrorism unless perpetrated by a Muslim.
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  • I thought that 'terrorist attack' was bandied around [i]a lot[/i] for Breivik's campaign, largely because it was kicked off by the bombing of political offices, followed by a shooting on a politically charged summer camp. The targeting of politicians, their families and their supporters for being their supporters pretty much instantly catapults you into 'terrorist', and that's very much how Breivik was treated in European media.

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    There was a pretty significant part of the American media that was insisting that he was not a Christian terrorist, despite everything you mentioned, plus his manifesto. This was the same part of the media that immediately labelled the Fort Hood shooter a Muslim terrorist.

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  • Excuse me?

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    [url=http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-27-2011/in-the-name-of-the-fodder]Let Mr. Stewart explain[/url].

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  • Edited by Entraps: 3/3/2013 6:15:01 AM
    I thought he was a neo-[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law]-godwinslaw!-[/url] or something, not a fundamentalist Christian?

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    He was obsessed with the knights Templar, and an incredibly weird version of Christianity that included a fascination with crusaders. Weird stuff, but based on Christianity.

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  • That seems like a blind shot at Fox. I can't believe I'm doing this, but I remember watching that unfold with my dad on Fox. I remember that the anchor (I think it was Shepard Smith) was describing it as a terrorist attack, not just some crazy guy killing a bunch of people. However, I cannot speak for any other time they spoke of that attack as that was the only time I watched Fox about that attack. [quote]I don't know what's worse, the fact that any act of violence by a Muslim is terrorism, or the fact that violence cannot be terrorism unless perpetrated by a Muslim.[/quote]You guys do realize there are Christian terrorist groups, right? But, anyway, speaking about law enforcement agencies and intelligence agencies, I'd say if a Muslim committed an act of mass murder that they'd be in the right to investigate for terrorism links. With al-Qaeda trying harder and harder to recruit Americans to do inside attacks (and also start domestic movements), I'd say that it would be wise to at least look into possible connections. Plus, like I said earlier, I'm pretty sure after every major shooting there are almost always investigations into whether or not the attack was terrorist attack or just mindless killing. I remember after the movie theater shooting last year people speculated that was a terrorist attack, but after they did some digging around, they concluded it was just mindless killing.

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    With my comment about Fox I was referring to the apparent double standard that many of their talking heads have when it comes to violence perpetrated by peoples of different religions. [url=http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-july-27-2011/in-the-name-of-the-fodder]The Daily Show summed it up nicely[/url]. On my other comment, it was absolutely not a comment on how law enforcement handles acts of extreme violence. They usually do a very good job, and of course are well within the right to investigate any links to terrorism, no matter who kills people. My comment has to do with how a significant part of the population screams terrorist whenever violence involves Muslims, but any Christian is assumed to be a lone psycho.

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  • Then I completely misread. Ana asef.

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