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8/15/2025 12:48:36 PM
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Because they can't get people to play Gambit with any consistency.
Because it's not fun.
Even after 3 different iterations, it's own season, it's own weapons, etc.
It's still just very unpopular and not worth the resources, evidently.
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I will start off by saying I do not love Gambit. But in the past it has been the one activity that when I join, I know there will always be 7 other players quickly in the queue. I honestly feel like Gambit is not in the portal because it would have been the fastest place to level up. Solo is definitely the fastest now, but imagine if we could choose Gambit over Fireteam Ops?
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I think there's much more evidence it's not in the portal because it's unpopular than because it would be fast to level up. Nevermind that Solo Ops are faster than a Gambit game. Especially Caldera and K1, which you can do in like 4-5 minutes tops.
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Neither one of us have to evidence to prove it is or isn't popular. I'm saying when I login, the match starts right away. I would also guess that the Dredgen title has the highest percentage of players with it. And I firmly believe if Gambit was added to the portal right now, it would be played more than Fireteam Ops.
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Well we do, actually. At least, if we use logic and context clues. There's no quote from Bungie saying "Gambit is bad" but you can look at their actions and treatment of the mode and understand. Bungie told us they were going to stop supporting it, which they did for the most part. I think they threw in some of the newer enemies and that's it. Video Games don't typically just stop innovating on popular things. If it was a popular and populated playlist, logic dictates they would at least give it [i]some[/i] love, like they do crucible, but they don't, because it's time wasted serving a very small portion of the playerbase. And again, that all happened AFTER Gambit 1, Gambit Prime, Season of Gambit, and Gambit 2.0. They tried, A LOT, to make it a game mode people wanted to play and it just didn't happen. Idk that it would be played more than FT ops, but I definitely know it wouldn't be faster than solos.
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[quote]Well we do, actually. At least, if we use logic and context clues. There's no quote from Bungie saying "Gambit is bad" but you can look at their actions and treatment of the mode and understand.[/quote] This is what they said. " This is not the end of Gambit, though. Besides [b]continuing to support[/b] the mode for legacy rewards and Triumphs, we have plans to bring the spotlight back to Gambit in the future, with updated rewards and mechanics that players haven't seen since the days of Prime."
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Buddy, bolding that statement and then having it followed by "for legacy rewards and triumphs" isn't the win you think it is, and I'm not even talking about that quote, because they stopped giving Gambit love LONG before June of this year lol. It's been dead for 2 years at least. Anyways, the writing on the wall is there. The action (or obvious lack thereof) is also there. If you don't want to acknowledge it and would rather theorize how it would be more popular than FT ops, go right ahead. It doesn't change the facts and overwhelming sentiment regarding the mode, both from player and the company.
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[quote]It doesn't change the facts and overwhelming sentiment regarding the mode, both from player and the company.[/quote] This is your opinion. Not a fact. That is my point.
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Them stopping support is a fact, no matter if it's indefnite, or forever. Them trying three times to make it a good mode is a fact. Them giving it it's own season is a fact. It not being a popular game mode after having done all that, is also a fact. That is my point. I am using those facts to have an informed conclusion, that Gambit is unpopular, which it is.
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They have not stopped support. Gambit has not been removed. Gambit has been ignored by Bungie. That is true, but we cannot say on this end that is because no one plays. We don't have those numbers. I agree with most of what you are saying. If Gambit was removed right now, I would zero reaction, because I don't care. I also agree that every time it has been highlighted, it was done so poorly. But if you look at how often someone Gilded their Dredgen title or had the ornament for the Ritual weapon, you will see it is impossible to say "No one plays". Bungie was very clear to say Trials is by far the least played activity in the game.
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Removal =/= stopping support. No reason to equate the two. No reason to bring up it not being removed lol. It's just context clues man. If people were playing the mode in any meaningful numbers, they'd support it way more than they have. I also didn't say "no one plays" so I'm not sure who you're quoting but again, with all available evidence, you're basically making the claim that Bungie "ignored" Gambit for no reason at all. And of course we're going to excuse every try at Gambit as being "done poorly" and not just recognize the mode isn't as popular with the people that play this game as they had hoped.
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When a video company says, they are no longer supporting (game mode, product, console) that means removal. So that is the definition I was working off of. I'm happy to concede that could also mean no new features or events. [quote]recognize the mode isn't as popular with the people that play this game as they had hoped.[/quote] This right is my only basis for arguing. You do not have the numbers is front of you to say it is not popular. I do not have the numbers to say it is. We can never know how often people play it. We also can't say just because they play they love it. If triumphs or an exoitc quest go through anything, it will be played. Zavala, Shaxx, and Saint-14 all lost their rewards ranks too. Just because Bungie ignores or removes something, doesn't mean it's not popular. There is not a single player in the game who said, "Get rid of all of these raids." Pretty sure no one asked for featured Raids and Dungeons to be removed.
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[quote]When a video company says, they are no longer supporting (game mode, product, console) that means removal.[/quote] No, it flatly does not. And my entire point that i've made like THREE times now is that I don't need the numbers. We have enough context to make a logical conclusion. If you seriously can't use context clues to arrive at an informed decision, I can't help you. And for the second time, I'm not asking anyone to remove Gambit so idk why you keep making points that "no one asked for X or Y to get removed." I also never made a single point about the rewards being gone. It's literally not my argument at all and you just keep misquoting me and arguing points I'm not even making lol. There's a reason the mode is one life support and it's not because people like it, play it, or want more of it. We can do all the mental gymnastics to come up with excuses for why that is, but when you're tired and done, the logical conclusion will be waiting for you.
