Yep. I cancelled my pre-order and moved to waiting for reviews once they announced they were not only sunsetting all my weapons, but all of my armor, exotic armor, and all the exotic class items I’ve worked for this year.
Talk about absolutely having zero respect for the player’s play time and commitment to your game.
Nah. I start in the beginning and pre-ordered every release since 2014. But I ain’t having all my gear sunset again.
If Bungie wanted to start over with completely new systems, a complete reset of gear, and separate the old game from the new - then Bungie should’ve re-invested all the money we’ve spent on Destiny and produced a new game over pissing their customer support on a stupid extraction shooter that’s built on plagiarism.
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Just so you know, exotic class items are being automatically updated to the new system. They’re being given stats that mesh with their perks. (Verity will likely have high grenade, Star Eater = Super, etc) And if you log on before the expansion drops, you’ll get 20 vouchers to focus exotic armor with whichever stats you want - through the new system they’re giving Ada-1 in the tower.
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Edited by glitchHiker: 6/15/2025 1:56:32 PMThat's actually just as terrible as the rest of this new system. They should allow us to put whatever stats we want on those, basically like it was already. Using my warlock as an example, under the current system I focus on resilience, recovery and grenade and I sure af don't want my class item having a high intelligence stat, even my rolls with star eater. Supers build back fast enough, especially with raid banners and how easy it is to generate orbs. I have no idea how I'm gonna be building my characters in edge of Fate, especially considering I cancelled my pre order and strongly doubt I'll decide to ever come back after it's released, but I know I won't be investing in super. If exotic class items are getting random stats assigned to them based on their perks, that's going to royally f*ck up pretty much every build I have that uses them, moreso for my titan/hunter. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. But I'm way more angry about the weapons part. This new system is 100% sunsetting just with a different name. I also detest what they're doing with the new power levelling system, especially with older weapons - essentially making them even more useless on top of the tier system. And that's before the absolutely insane amount of grinding they're adding. What they should've done is come out with a system that lets us enhance older guns up to tier 5 (minus the extra column 3-4 perks of course), similar to current enhancement but requiring more mats, even if it costs hundreds of enhancement cores/prisms/whatever's. That would've kept everyone happy and still made the newer weapons more appealing (not absolutely f*CKING required) but also not make the last few years of investment completely irrelevant. Bungie is now doubling down on everything that makes their players hate them, proving that they really don't listen to us at all, and didn't learn anything from their previous sunsetting mistakes, or just never gave a s#!t to begging with. They wouldn't have come up with all this if they listened to even an ounce of player (non-streamer) feedback in the last 5 years. They've moved way beyond toxic and I can no longer support a company like that. They only care and respond when sales are bad, which they've done many times in the past (gamergate, free bright dust, etc) so I'm now voting with my wallet and everyone else should too.
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Edited by neonsox42: 6/15/2025 5:24:05 PMBut at the same time, stats are changing. Resilience is becoming health - and is once again the worst stat. Mobility and Int are becoming Weapons and Super - 2 of the strongest. I wish they were introducing this, but I’m willing to bet it’ll be coming with Revenant -> [quote]What they should've done is come out with a system that lets us enhance older guns up to tier 5 (minus the extra column 3-4 perks of course), similar to current enhancement but requiring more mats, even if it costs hundreds of enhancement cores/prisms/whatever's. [/quote] Most of your weapons are not going to be completely useless for a long time - in a similar capacity to what happened in Witch Queen. We’re not going to get replacements for every single meta weapon for a good while, or at least not at any faster of a rate than it would normally. Also if it makes a difference, we’re getting 700 free bright dust per week until edge of fate like we got in into the light. It sounds like you need a break and are looking for an excuse to do so. Breaks are necessary. They’ve been extremely beneficial for my relationship with the game.
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Yeah I already took a break and was planning on returning for EoF, but definitely not anymore. Revenant and all the toxic changes it contained was the beginning of the end for me, but these new changes are just disgusting and completely destroyed my desire to come back. I can't even pull myself to login for RotN considering any weapons I'd hope to chase are just going to be irrelevant in a few weeks!! They clearly didn't learn from sunsetting the first time around, or never cared to begin with. Obviously they think they know better what's "good" for this game and that's making all the loot we grind for like it's a second job completely irrelevant every couple years. That's toxic AF. Period. There are a lot of amazing weapons I've spent a lot of time either grinding or crafting that I'd like to still use going forward - unique gems like the new midnight coup, hung jury or fatebringer - but they'll now be basically completely useless, not only with the new tier system, but with this new power system they're implementing - yet another example of doubling down on the part their players hate the most and constantly ask to be removed. But their answer is to make it even worse and require more resources, yet you can't upgrade older weapons - or you can but in a limited capacity. I don't even know the specifics, it's all been very vague. But what's clear is they don't give a single f*ck what their players want. This new game director is tripling down on everything that his predecessor improved, worked to remove from the game or just simplify - Removed crafting, brought back the seasonal power grind and is now making it 10x worse in EoF, brought back sunsetting under a new name, and now adding new materials/currencies for upgrading but only for newer weapons (aka sunsetting). This game and Bungie are not heading in a good direction, they clearly never learn or just don't care. I've never known a more toxic company who go so far out of their way to constantly alienate their players and make everything they grind for useless. Other companies reward their players for their years of support, but Bungie constantly does the exact opposite over and over. But hey, at least we get some free bright dust!