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6/8/2025 10:16:03 PM
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The Gambler's Dodge (and bonk hammer) nerfs are absolutely ridiculous
For those of you who don't know, Gambler's Dodge no longer refunds a melee charge, it gives you melee energy based on your Melee stat, which means that in order to get the same effectiveness from it that you do now, you'll need to waste 70 points into Strength! And for those of you biased Titan and Warlock mains, who don't know how to love one class without irrationally hating the other 2, just imagine if Healing Rift didn't heal you anymore unless you had 70 points in Health, or Barricade crumpled like tissue paper without 70 Health. That's what's being done to Hunters. Also, it's not just Hunters. Bonk hammer is getting the same treatment. If you want your hammer refunded when you pick it up, guess what? You need to dump 70 points into Strength just to get the same effect you do now for free. These changes are attrocious. One will ruin a lot of builds on Solar Titan, and the other will ruin the entire Hunter class.
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1 ReplyHonestly just stop playing ,the more players that quit the more chance bungie will revert the changes but they won't even think about reverting anything aslong as the sheep continue to consume bungies bs. Let the game die, then let the streamers cry to bungie they aren't getting views because of the nerfs and sunsetting .
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Yep it’s pretty stupid. Clear that this system is not well thought out
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6 RepliesWhy are we assuming you won't need to spec into healing to see benefits from rift?
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Don_T._Care… busy not giving a f… - old
[quote].. just imagine if Healing Rift didn't heal you anymore unless you had 70 points in Health, or Barricade crumpled like tissue paper without 70 Health. That's what's being done to Hunters.[/quote] Sorry, but that is incorrect. The Hunter class ability is the Dodge, not the refund of a second ability. That was a bonus. To be equal the warlock would need to get his melee back on rift cast. Titans need an aspect to give their barricade a secondary function like overshield. Hunter is (was) the only class with a free refund. I see no flaw in it when playing a brawler related build requires specking the relating Attribute. Should have been that way to begin with. -
4 RepliesI feel for the hunters who run combination blow in PVE, however in PVP hunter is the only class who gets a free refund just for using their class ability. This was way overdue for PVP.
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4 RepliesSadly hunters are getting hit and we know that but we don't know how warlocks and titans are going to get hit, it's not like Bungie is just going to nerf hunters and only hunters, they were already arguably the weakest in PVE comparatively, so the others are going to get their bad news soon, maybe in tomorrows twid
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3 Replies100%. But be careful, the meat riders will be after your head for having this opinion.
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Hunters needing to invest 70 stat points in Recovery and Melee is just plain stupid… in other news, concentration is going to be even more busted than ever!!! Too bad bungie didn’t have the balls to nerf prismatic Titan again.
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12 RepliesExcuse me WHAT!? I know I’m slow but that’s ridiculous! Hunters keep getting kicked while we’re down, and it still says “fully refunds your Melee energy”
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Yea, makes me not wanna play even more. Good work, Bungo.
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1 ReplyI think the dodge change is fine, however though its cool-down should be lowered then with such a change.
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The nerf was justified :P
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5 RepliesGood no ability should completely refund by dodging at a wall!
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Yeah, I feel like the negative incentive really doesn't need to be there on the full refund abilities. I think the positive of increasing effects over 100 stat was already enough to make people consider building into melee And then for a couple Hunter builds requiring investment into both Class and Melee just to function how they already have for years seems shortsighted Lots of baffling sandbox decisions in EoF
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1 ReplyIf they do this and go through with it, assuming i still am going to play. I will be switching class due to being forced to do so. I have all 3 but i do mainly play as Hunter.
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What a ridiculous pair of nerfs…. More and more disappointed
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I'm gonna be real as much as I hate getting hoed by throwing knives that's a -blam!- nerf as for bonk hammer wasn't it's nerf enough anyway
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I play all three classes but mainline my Titan like it’s a highly addictive substance. That being said I always enjoy my time on my Hunter. These changes are ridiculous. And I’m not just talking about these specific changes you have mentioned. If Bungie doesn’t walk back many of these changes it’s the death knell of this franchise, and their studio in its current form. I’m going to enjoy saying “I told you so…” to all the Bungie glazers who have defended this asinine direction Bungie has taken with EoF.
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9 RepliesI did not know that! That’s ruined the fun out especially my solar build for pvp on hunter. And also smokes on void
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Ascension will be the only viable endgame build now. I don't main any of the classes, but this one will have me playing hunter Faaaaar less.
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I don't even run a mainly melee build but it kills pretty much every rotation I have for every build.
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2 RepliesConsidering most everyone with a clue runs highest stats on strength ....
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5 Replies[quote]And for those of you biased Titan and Warlock mains, who don't know how to love one class without irrationally hating the other 2, just imagine if Healing Rift didn't heal you anymore unless you had 70 points in Health, or Barricade crumpled like tissue paper without 70 Health. That's what's being done to Hunters.[/quote] Calls everyone else biased and in the same breath shows bias for Hunters. The actual comparison to rifts not healing and barricades falling over, would be if hunters tripped over when they tried to dodge. Get some air, you're a little light headed.
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3 RepliesEdited by TonnoSenpai: 6/9/2025 9:02:48 AMis aproblem only for hunters tbh wich i agree is one of the few bad changes, if ytou are using bonk hammer you are using a melee build
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21 RepliesNah you are complaining that your melee build needs melee points to work sounds fair to me. This way it won’t 90% on day 1 of this new raid. Also you say about Titan barricade being like tissue. It’s already that after all the crying and nerfs it got. Bonk hammer fully restores after pick up too.
