While true in some points, the point I made was that lots of LFG posts I join either dont say or sometimes even say they will do legit encounters and then dont when the time comes because either other people dont want to or dont know how. On rare occasions like the one mentioned in my post about the Last Wish, I was told we would do everything legit full clear only for someone to literally wall breach, teleport the team to riven against everyone's will and then claim that they dont know legit riven. usually when posts say they are cheesing before a raid starts, I just leave. I have no problem with what other people do on their own with their clan or friends, but LFG where people are looking to learn or play things for fun isnt a place to practice glitches and speed run strats imo.