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Edited by Salty-47:
5/23/2025 1:15:01 AM
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[quote]The sheer volume of cheating in crucible is UNACCEPTABLE. Fix it or a lot of us won’t be playing anymore.[/quote]
You're a 0.8kd currently averaging a 0.6 kd with none of your matches having anything indicating that anyone was cheating. You also expect bungie to fix the second least updated mode that they haven't cared about in years? Even without the supposed "cheaters" you're playing against, it's not going to change how your matches go. Unless you have actual proof of these so-called cheaters, then you aren't playing against cheaters. You're playing against people that are better than you, and you just don't like how you keep losing.
Edit: You'd probably also do better in matches if you didn't run double scout for no reason.
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Edited by Motorhead England: 5/23/2025 10:50:57 PMWhat the hell has anyones K.D got to do with the amount of cheats that are running riot in ALL modes of PvP? Any player who has played in the past 12 months has come across cheats, no matter if you're below average or top tier. I don't play much at all now, and I'm probably below average, but because of my skill level, I don't automatically acuse someone of cheating if I die a lot. But you KNOW someone is cheating when their character is super fast and they perform ridiculous moves, they don't take damage, they have ultimate heavy ammo, can shoot through walls, have a constant super etc....the list goes on. So to have a go at the OP because of his/her skill level or loadout is derisory. We [b]all know[/b] that cheating is rampant. We [b]all know[/b] that Bungie don't care. And we [b]all know[/b] that Bungie wont ban people cos there'd be hardly anyone left playing PvP. Honestly, I'm sure people like you just hang around this forum to cause arguments, and going by your username must have one hell of a chip on your shoulder.
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[quote]What the hell has anyones K.D got to do with the amount of cheats that are running riot in ALL modes of PvP?[/quote] A low kd player that is playing on console is significantly less likely to run into anyone cheating, especially when their match history has no indication of anyone ever cheating unless said cheaters are horrible at it. [quote]Any player who has played in the past 12 months has come across cheats, no matter if you're below average or top tier.[/quote] I've played in the last 12 months multiple times have yet to run into 1 single cheater on console. [quote]I don't play much at all now, and I'm probably below average, but because of my skill level, I don't automatically acuse someone of cheating if I die a lot.[/quote] So the opposite of what the OP did then. [quote]But you KNOW someone is cheating when their character is super fast and they perform ridiculous moves, they don't take damage, they have ultimate heavy ammo, can shoot through walls, have a constant super etc....the list goes on.[/quote] And yet none of that ever tends to happen on console, and the OP has no proof of them ever running into any said cheaters. [quote]So to have a go at the OP because of his/her skill level or loadout is derisory.[/quote] No it's not. There is literally zero reason to cheat against a player that can barely even play as it is. That's why a majority of cheaters are playing against people at least a 1.0kd or higher in every actual proof video. [quote]We [b]all know[/b] that cheating is rampant.[/quote] On PC mainly, which is not what the OP plays on. [quote]We [b]all know[/b] that Bungie don't care.[/quote] Then why do people keep whining about it as if they think bungie does? [quote]And we [b]all know[/b] that Bungie wont ban people cos there'd be hardly anyone left playing PvP.[/quote] They do ban people. It's just that when it's the second least updated mode that only a small portion cares about, why would it take priority? I'm not saying that's a good thing, but it is what it is. [quote]Honestly, I'm sure people like you just hang around this forum to cause arguments, and going by your username must have one hell of a chip on your shoulder.[/quote] Yeah. So, like usual, someone is just going to wrongly assume what my name means, and it's 100% not my problem if people can't handle hearing the truth.
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[quote][quote]The sheer volume of cheating in crucible is UNACCEPTABLE. Fix it or a lot of us won’t be playing anymore.[/quote] You're a 0.8kd currently averaging a 0.6 kd with none of your matches having anything indicating that anyone was cheating. You also expect bungie to fix the second least updated mode that they haven't cared about in years? Even without the supposed "cheaters" you're playing against, it's not going to change how your matches go. Unless you have actual proof of these so-called cheaters, then you aren't playing against cheaters. You're playing against people that are better than you, and you just don't like how you keep losing.[/quote] Says the guy that is a .8 in trials
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What's trials?
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Hes right 😭
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[quote][quote][quote]The sheer volume of cheating in crucible is UNACCEPTABLE. Fix it or a lot of us won’t be playing anymore.[/quote] You're a 0.8kd currently averaging a 0.6 kd with none of your matches having anything indicating that anyone was cheating. You also expect bungie to fix the second least updated mode that they haven't cared about in years? Even without the supposed "cheaters" you're playing against, it's not going to change how your matches go. Unless you have actual proof of these so-called cheaters, then you aren't playing against cheaters. You're playing against people that are better than you, and you just don't like how you keep losing.[/quote] Says the guy that is a .8 in trials[/quote] Salty’s Trials K/D is irrelevant and he isn’t wrong. 🤦🏻♂️
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I don't understand what this fixation with people not providing any real proof of said cheaters is. I mean, I understand they can't just outright name them, but there are definitely ways to provide said proof without breaking bungie's code of conduct. It also seems like a lot of these posts are made by people 0.8 or lower with less than a 40-50% win rate. As if those are the people cheaters are wanting to play against, let alone needing to cheat against.
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Its relevant when he opens his toxic mouth about stats dude.
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[quote]Its relevant when he opens his toxic mouth about stats dude.[/quote] It's toxic to point out facts that are public to anyone? Go cry in a corner if you're that fragile.
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Salty i can't stand it when you bash on stats especially when the dude is struggling man
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[quote]Salty i can't stand it when you bash on stats especially when the dude is struggling man[/quote] Then cry about it. No one told you to read anything I said, let alone get emotional over what was said. Their stats are 100% relevant when everything indicates how they aren't playing against any cheaters, or at least it's not as frequent as they claim. Then there's also the fact of the platform they play on that has already a significantly small amount of cheaters. If you can't handle that, then do make that mine or anyone else's problem and definitely don't go around crying about how you got your feelings hurt by the facts and what was said.
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Kickem when they're down salty, nice dude
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Bro no offense, my friends are a 1.0 average and when I hear from them "they are cheating" I just roll my eyes and nod. Because in reality the people who are "cheating" are just better than them. That's just the reality
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[quote]Kickem when they're down salty, nice dude[/quote] Oh no. I told them the truth about what was actually happening and how the facts prove it instead of just affirming their delusion. Yeah, as I just said, go cry about it.
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Ypu dont know jack looking at someone's stats man and you know it. Im not jumping you on some of yours because i know they dont show the whole picture on whats going on dude. Be better, this is your community man
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[quote]Ypu dont know jack looking at someone's stats man and you know it. [/quote] Except for the fact that they aren't playing on the platform known for cheaters. Then there's also the fact that nothing in their match history shows anyone doing ungodly good, so still no indication of cheating. [quote]Im not jumping you on some of yours because i know they dont show the whole picture on whats going on dude. [/quote] Good for you. Am I supposed to care that you'd rather ignore the things and facts that indicate the opposite of someone's claims? [quote]Be better, this is your community man[/quote] Yeah, and this community can definitely do without a sh*t ton of whiny crybabies who can't handle losing matches, facts, or commonsense. You do know they also made this magical new thing to prevent you from seeing what I say when it so easily triggers you. They call it [u][b]blocking[/b][/u]. Try it out or quit crying about things. Your choice.
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Salty im facing constant 120 hc 3rd party abuse every match and you claim theres a small amount of cheating. Itll all come to light soon enough with AI You know what it looks like and so do I so don't even go there. No pause on third shot cheating trash. Mx range no stability cheating trash. Easy to spot on console
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Edited by Salty-47: 5/24/2025 5:44:05 PM[quote]Salty im facing constant 120 hc 3rd party abuse every match and you claim theres a small amount of cheating. [/quote] And your proof is? Or is this just another one of those "believe me everybody, but I'll never provide any proof," kind of argument? I also highly doubt you're constantly facing people using any form of cheats otherwise why would you constantly keep going back in? Makes no sense to consistently and constantly play a mode if there's as many cheaters in it as you claim. [quote]Itll all come to light soon enough with AI[/quote] What? [quote]You know what it looks like and so do I so don't even go there. No pause on third shot cheating trash. Mx range no stability cheating trash. Easy to spot on console[/quote] Like usual, you and all the other people who cry cheater, you'll never have or provide proof of said cheating because you can't. Now, for your favorite thing. You're a 0.8kd player and have a less than 50% win rate. Less than 40% on warlock, the main class you've played pvp as. Just like the OP, no one has any reason to cheat against you. Then again, you have a majority of your account hidden, most likely due to the fact you know people will call you out for lying about cheaters and how playing horribly usually leads to people like you falsely claiming others are cheaters.
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Lmao, you sound like a 3rd party supporter! Proof, damn just watch them spam 3 taps damn dude. They dont do that even max stability without help lol Ive been playing a very long time salty it's undeniably clear. No pause after first or pause on third shot or no stability all range cheating trash scumbag. Simple Guys that play and play and play know instantly or are using.
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[quote]Lmao, you sound like a 3rd party supporter![/quote] Nothing I said is supporting cheaters. I've simply pointed out how falsely claiming something without proof and when everything indicates otherwise is moronic. Just like crying about someone pointing out said things. [quote]Proof, damn just watch them spam 3 taps damn dude. [/quote] Just watch who? My kd may not be significantly higher than yours, but I can definitely say we aren't playing in the same types of lobbies. You get sh*t on in matches and immediately blame everything instead of taking accountability for the fact that you being a 0.8 with only a 39% means it's not hard for anyone to beat you. [quote]They dont do that even max stability without help lol[/quote] I have no problem controlling the recoil of any gun I use, be that at max stability or not. If you're competent enough and know what the recoil is for the weapon you're using, then it's not hard to compensate for it. There are also a good portion of weapons that have no recoil to even deal with with the right roll. [quote]Ive been playing a very long time salty it's undeniably clear. [/quote] Good for you. I've been playing longer than you and can definitely say you're just whining that you got beat and constantly get beat by others. [quote]No pause after first or pause on third shot or no stability all range cheating trash scumbag. Simple [/quote] Yeah, sure. Still just the whole argument of "trust me guys, but here's no proof." [quote]Guys that play and play and play know instantly or are using.[/quote] You don't have to play 24/7 to know when someone is cheating. Just like how you don't need to play 24/7 to know that below average players aren't playing cheaters and can't handle when everyone is better than them.
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Salt end of the day if you dont see pr dont want to you are using it. No you cant control recoil on 120s to auto-fire 3 tap on max range no stability without kbm. NO YOU CANT. NO and if you say otherwise you are an abuser, end of it. Those are designed so you cant without a pause or peak. Ive played a long time and know every gun very well. I also have fiends that use that junk and am well informed on what it does. Enough already.
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[quote]Salt end of the day if you dont see pr dont want to you are using it.[/quote] Pr? And that's funny to just accuse someone of using something they aren't, kind of like what the OP and you are doing, without any proof. [quote]No you cant control recoil on 120s to auto-fire 3 tap on max range no stability without kbm. NO YOU CANT. [/quote] You 100% can control the recoil of any weapon unless apparently you're a 0.8, no accountability player. You also keep making claims of people doing things yet still provide no proof. [quote]NO and if you say otherwise you are an abuser, end of it. [/quote] Again, more false accusations simply because you can't provide proof and won't take accountability for the fact that being a below average player means you are going to constantly be beat by others. [quote]Those are designed so you cant without a pause or peak.[/quote] Do you proof of these so-called full auto users? And I mean proof of [u][b]yours[/b][/u] not some other persons video where they actually played against. [quote]Ive played a long time and know every gun very well. [/quote] Again, good for you. Am I supposed to care how long you've played? I've played more than you and can definitely say that if you knew the guns well, then you wouldn't be a 0.8 and losing almost 70% of the games you play. [quote]I also have fiends that use that junk and am well informed on what it does. [/quote] Just not well informed on providing proof or taking accountability. [quote]Enough already.[/quote] B*tch I already told you that if you don't like it, then either don't respond to me, read what I sat, or just block me. It's not my responsibility that you want to live in fantasy land where everyone who's better than you is magically cheating without ever providing proof. Now go cry in the corner or at least quit doing to me because I couldn't care less that you can't win, so you have to blame everyone else.
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Dont say you can do impossible things salty. End of this conversation man
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[quote]Dont say you can do impossible things salty.[/quote] It 100% is possible to control recoil. People do it all the time. Just because you can't do something doesn't make it impossible. [quote]End of this conversation man[/quote] Then quit responding just to continue it and keep crying as if I'm supposed to care how you can't prove something, make false accusations, and can't even control your own weapons in the game.
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Show me a video of you running max range no stability firing 120s and max speed consistently hitting 3 taps and never missing then tuff guy. You said you can now prove it!!
