void hunters are 80% of ascendant 0. i know because i'm 14.2k right now. it's not a skill issue. its a skill issue if you think it's a skill issue honestly...

It’s a skill issue simply because you are not countering it appropriately. Whining about it in the forums doesn’t make the problem go away. This is the definition of a skill issue. The fact that the most played class in the game, uses the only good subclass for that class… doesn’t automatically make it less of a skill issue. Hunters have no good subclasses bar the void one and maybe strand on a good day. Every other class has its unique ability… whether it be shields, space magic, or other bullshitery. Stop complaining, grow a pair.

i love it when people say skill issue without looking up stats. buddy i am 14k in ascendant 0. vs 80% void hunters in this comp bracket. it is not a skill issue to realize something is broken when it is. the skill issue here is not realizing how obviously broken it is. like you have to be a naive blam to actually not think void hunter is far overtuned right now. "ItS tHe MoSt PlAyEd cLaSs" dude compare the usage rate of the other specs to void hunter. this weekend it is being played 4x as much as the next subclass. last week same thing. prismatic is still a good subclass it is just balanced. strand also very good. i think you are mistaking broken with balance. and that is where the skill issue lies.

Again, just because something is “overplayed” doesn’t mean it’s overpowered. It’s the only viable option currently,

when the game mode is structured to award players for winning. yes an overplayed class is a very obvious indicator. i can break down though by each ability why the class is broken though easily. i have just done it 100 times already on the forums for idiots who dont get it.

The problem is… the class isn’t overpowered. The issue you are running into is that several players on the same team are using the same subclass. If you want bungie to fix the issue, the need to buff stasis and solar subclasses respectively to incentivize people to go to another subclass. Are there aspects of the void hunters kit that may give a void hunter a strong advantage? - Yes. THIS IS THE POINT OF ABILITIES Does this mean it needs to be nerfed? - No. If bungie simply nerfed any ability that gave anyone an edge… then titans wouldn’t have shields or one hit melees. You are simply ignorant to reality if you have unsuccessfully “explained” your reasoning for the overpowered abilities 100 times. Saying the same thing over and over again doesn’t make you correct.

you know what blam it ill explain to you why void hunter is broken. the reason void hunter is broken is because it has way too many powerful things going for it that in sum total create a broken class. 1) it has the best grenade in the game. after swarm grenade nerf scatter grenade is the best grenade in the game. it is the only grenade that can actually 1 shot somebody and does the highest amount of grenade damage in the shortest amount of time. yes other void classes also have scatter grenade but remind you that the reason void hunter is broken is the sum total. 2) it has the best powered melee in the game. no other melee in the game does 4 different things without needing an aspect, conditional, or anything built into it. it pings radar, it blinds/obscures vision, it can be thrown as far as a grenade, it does damage on impact and over time, it zones players out of an area, it debuffs targets to take increased damage, etc. even with the nerf it is by far the best melee in the game. 3) hunters have the best class ability in the game in general. the reason being is that every 30 seconds or so you can slide, wideswing, etc a lane for free because you can simply dodge roll back behind cover as well as dodge roll being the right distance to then repeek if needed. it isn't predictable and easily played around like the other four class abilities. the only class ability that can potentially outperform it is warlock well within scrims (not regular pvp). 4) hunters have the best base jump in the game. the reason it is the best jump in the game is because other than blink it is the quickest way to remove oneself from someone elses reticle. both of the other jumps are traceable hunter jump far less. 5) void hunter has bar none by far the best self buff in the game which is accessable every 30 seconds or sooner. this being invis. invis makes you translucent and hard to see and it almost fully removes you from radar if used correctly. this is literally without question the best self buff in the game. a lot of subclasses don't really have self buffs. and with the aspect on the prowl you can also get wallhacks while invis. 6) void hunter has the two best aspects in the game. the new void hunter aspect grants wallhacks and smoke bomb smoke spawn on the target upon death which prevents reviving/zones targets etc and if that smoke is walked over by the void hunter or their teammates it grants invis. void hunter also has two separate aspects that grant the best self buff in the game both when paired with certain exotics make the uptime of said self buff more frequent than any other self buff in the game. meanwhile most other subclasses have aspects that honestly do nothing more than make their other abilities somewhat relevant to void hunters. 7) void subclasses have the best pvp fragments in the game. void overshield upon killing a target while weak, health regen on melee kill, improved radar while crouched, and nearly the same stat buffing potentiality that prismatic hunter has (which had its ability uptime nerfed). 8) void hunter has bar none by far the best ult in the game. it is extremely hard to stop. can literally tank most casted supers unless direct hits are made let alone bullets. it is off radar, faster moving than almost every subclass so its very very difficult to escape, has wallhacks, etc. like there is no question about this. there is literally no arguing it. like in every facet of a class, void hunter has the strongest abilities. and yea it needs a nerf. and i guarentee when it gets the proper one it deserves it still will be the best hunter sublcass. and yea as a hunter your kit should be less powerful than the kits of other classes because in the base version of the game (not scrims) their class ability and jump are far better than titan and warlock. so yea please stop. it isn't hard to figure out why or how they need nerfs. like i said not understanding this is a skill issue.

Cool, thanks for sharing your opinion. Titans can pop a shield and have one hit melees. Warlocks have a healing riff, instant melees, and turrets I’m sorry that you are butthurt about a hunter subclass, it’s not overpowered, you just suck at the game.

reading comprehension must not be your strong suit. luckily my goal here is not to convince you of anything because i mean you're too busy blowin snot bubbles and saying "cope" and "skill issue" like you're groot from marvel or something. my goal is to show to anyyyyyone reading this that there is really no counter argument to why void hunter is broken and needs nerfs.

Alas, the loudest person in the room isn’t automatically correct. Insulting my reading comprehension simply because I disagree on the argument you make is telling. Have a great day, I’ll be playing crucible, spamming the void hunters dodge as I have for the past four years. Good day sir.