[quote] 6 players on the enemy team that can continuously go invisible and have perfect hip fire and stupid slowing smoke grenades. The guy who thought this “balance” was fair and sustainable should be in line to be the next layoff from your dev team…[/quote] Smoke no longer slows since Mar 11, 2025. Just walk, run, jump, thruster, dodge, or air dash out of it. [quote] Destiny 2 Update 8.2.5 Mar 11, 2025 - Destiny 2 Dev Team Hunter Nightstalker Smoke debuff No longer slows player movement speed, jump height, or weapon handling in PvP. No longer suppresses player movement abilities in PvP.[/quote] I think they should add more new Aspects to other subclasses to incite diverse build crafting.