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3/23/2025 2:10:41 AM
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I’ll see your hip fire nerf on KBM and raise you an aim assist nerf on controllers.
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Mnk has more aim assist than controller as Bungie has verified but for some reason mnk players prefer to call it bullet magnetism and not associate it with aim assist. Aim assist moves the reticle towards the player if your moving the stick towards the player and only when it's over the player bullet magnetism bends bullets towards the hit box from a greater point of the hit box. So reticle friction or bending bullets hmm
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Thanks for confirming hip fire doesn't need to be nerfed on KBM by literally explaining the systems in place to help out controller users. Lmao.
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Oh but it does. That's why Bungie is looking into it via a twid, the rdm invise hip fire hunters rise by 3/4s of it's usage has been on mnk and they have not yet but are going to address it. Because of the ease of hip fire mnk.
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Sounds like RDM is the problem and not hip fire. Lol. Why not nerf everything on KBM? Hand cannons, scouts and snipers are literally point and click. ADS tracking is no harder than hip fire tracking. Maybe reign in the accuracy and range bonuses from RDM considering those are the only people I ever see hip firing anything. Lol.
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I don't really care if things get nerfed on mnk I play on both PC n Console id never play PC pvp cheaters not mnk Rdm are an issue imo hip fire should lose accuracy at range like a damage drop off but much sooner If it were up to me I'd only consider 2 mnk vs controller changes and I'm not sure if it's a mnk nerf or a controller buff 1 stability does not matter on mnk and it matters on controller id figure out how to even that playing field 2 instant full speed strafe or sprint or flick back sliding on mnk but it takes time to ramp up on controller id figure out how to bring both inputs closer. Example: Titans being able to consecrate from a stand stil to a slide instantly is silly in comparison
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I'm not saying you care. I'm pointing out the flaws in the logic. You'll never be able to bring controller up to KBM input simply due to the inherent design of the analog sticks when it comes to movement. The closest you can get is jacking up your look sensitivity while also adjusting your ads sense. Stability does matter on KBM, it's just easier to control. Again, another problem with controller and analogs. So unless we're talking wholesale nerfs on KBM to bring them down to controller (good luck with the community on that one) I doubt it's going to happen. Also, you literally just said you never play PvP on PC so you're talking about a lot of perceived issues you don't even really understand. Beyond that, as far as I'm concerned... if you're playing on PC, in PC lobbies and choose to use a controller... that's on the player.
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But you said it in your first sentence controller will never be as good as kbm. So the answer is by Bungie previous logic nerf the best thing, so kbm must be nerfed because they can't buff controller.
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Console players play with console players. KBM has no impact. Controller players on PC CHOOSE to use controller on PC. So punish players because some people choose to use the inferior input? The only real people that are forced into these situations are console players who party and queue with PC players. As someone who has played both KBM and controller on PC, controller literally does 40% of the work for you when aiming and tracking players. I've also never said, "man, that guy only killed me because he was on KBM". "KBM has too many advantages" is a method of cope for people who want to believe that's the reason why they lose ones sometimes. Sure, movement is better on KBM but people that really take advantage of that are probably top 1% and the vast majority of the player base isn't in those lobbies.
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This matters in things like worlds 1st races for raids and dungeons where it doesn't matter where you play there's only one world's first
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So now you've pivoted from a PvP discussion about hip fire to PVE worlds first races. Lmao Agree to disagree at this point because you're not interested in an honest conversation. Have a good weekend.
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I didn't pivot mnk is better than controller in all of the entire game it's the superior input bungie can not buff controller so when things arise that need to be addressed for input related things the answer is reel in mnk a bit
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[quote]So what are you saying, hip fire should be nerfed on mnk?[/quote] Lol I am saying those numbers are nuts.
