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1/12/2025 3:42:37 AM
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i've posted blantant cheating on these forms before and bungie gives me a forum ban. they're defending the cheaters. terrible devs
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  • I will warn you, discussion of a ban on the forums is breaking terms of service, if I remember correctly. So I would personally either be preparing for another ban or otherwise edit/remove this post.

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  • Bungie have broken their own TOS. I've read it over so many times.

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  • I mean, that's not how terms of service works. It's terms that we, the user, have to agree to in order to interact on their platform. They are not beholden to those rules.

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  • How is cheating dealt with? Apparently, they don't allow such behaviour within the game, yet that's all the game has become.

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  • First off, people do get banned. I've seen it happen personally, and the fact that cheaters are dealt with in obscurity is part of the system. If it's done publicly and visibly, then it gives the cheat developers more information to work with. Secondly, that's a pretty bold premise, claiming that cheating is all the game has become. I don't buy it. I just got hot off the heels of running a flawless trials card and didn't see a single one, which you think would be an impossibility if it's "all cheaters," especially given how low the player population is right now. But none of this even matters, because you're arguing about how bungie chooses to deal with people who break their terms of service. That's not something we get a say on. You are on their platform, you are on their game, you agreed to the rules. Could they be more transparent about how it's handled? Sure, but they don't need to be, especially when we are talking about cheaters. But I'll say this, they're pretty transparent about what you can and cannot say on the forums.

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  • Try telling this to the ever declining player base and convince them that there are NO carry services and NO cheats what so ever. I might as well be permanently banned from the forums because it seems that this community can't stomach the hard truth sometimes.

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  • I never said that there weren't any dude, that's a brand new sentence you just made up. I said that it's not nearly as big of a problem as you're making it out to be, because I can guarantee you that it isn't.

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  • I guarantee you it is a very big problem.

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  • [quote]I guarantee you it is a very big problem.[/quote] Yes for those people that you said can't stomach the truth.

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  • Do you have literally any evidence of that, that doesn't come from people complaining about it without providing any proper evidence?

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  • I have questionable evidence.

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  • Well, I am questioning that evidence.

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  • Start by looking on YT and give answers to what is occurring there.

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  • Sensationalism, the algorithm doing it's thing, whatever you wanna call it. It's the same thing that happens everywhere else. Stuff that's dramatic and engaging gets elevated. You'll see tons of examples of stuff like this that causes discourse, because the algorithm promotes it. What you won't see, is all the hundreds of matches that the players posting clips of fighting cheaters go through where they don't see even one. Because those aren't interesting. Those don't engage people, it's just a regular match, nothing strange. It's not hard to cast doubt on anything that you find on social media. It's why people have been told, for decades, not to trust it. And, let's be clear, youtube is effectively social media now.

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  • Why waste your time writing all of that? Players are leaving because questions aren't being answered and problems aren't being solved. You can be as technical and influential as much as you want, but that won't keep the game alive.

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  • Interesting how that's your response to having your, by your own admittance "questionable" evidence, actually questioned. Yes, the game is in a bad state right now, yes there are issues, do you think that blindly firing guns off at the ghosts of problems that may or may not actually exist helps at all? Because I think it does the opposite. I think we should be focusing on the actual issues at hand, the things that we know for certain exist and that bungie can actually reasonably fix, and point the finger at those. The more we cry foul about cheaters without any proper evidence of the problem the more we draw attention away from more substantive issues.

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  • At this rate, there will be no one left to complain about cheats. Let that sink in.

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  • [quote]At this rate, there will be no one left to complain about cheats. Let that sink in.[/quote] Why are you so afraid if this videogame is shutdown? It's just a videogame... let that sink in. So many posters use this fear tactic that the player base is getting so low that the game will die. Its only a display of projecting your own irrational fear. Why are you guys so afraid if an online game stops?

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  • I don't buy into that alarmism. Even if the game is long dead you all would still be here. Let that sink in.

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  • Not according to the percentage that have already left.

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  • People have been using this exact same rhetoric for years. I simply don't buy that destiny is going to die. You all are the children crying wolf

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  • If only you knew 😂🤦‍♂️

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  • Knew what? That you and people like you have been saying this exact same thing since forsaken, and it continues to prove false? You always have a reason that it's somehow different this time, and yet, the result never is.

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  • Have you ever thought that maybe some people really had faith and confidence in Destiny franchise, and with all the problems in game and dramas within the Bungie, has really opened the communities eyes and some are happy to hang around and then bail when Frontiers comes out because not only will it still cost to play but guaranteed the same problems will exist. What, then?

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  • Try saying that again, but with proper grammar and syntax because I literally cannot understand what you are trying to imply here. Like, I hate to be the grammar (insert word for germans in 1940s here), but there's a point where it is just flat out unacceptable because nobody can tell what you are trying to say anymore.

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