5 1/2 years? Guess we've been playing different games.

I've played like 20 gambit matches and got few times the same useless role. I died of boringness. :) People there aren't even trying to win, all they want is to get a gambit engram as fast as possible.

[quote]I've played like 20 gambit matches and got few times the same useless role. I died of boringness. :) People there aren't even trying to win, all they want is to get a gambit engram as fast as possible.[/quote] I’ve reset Gambit 4 times to get a god roll for PvE. Still hasn’t dropped and I suspect the perks are still weighted.

Theyre not weighted, u just unlucky. I got demo/tremors with high cal, also at 4 resets it should guarantee triple perks imo. I focused a bunch with only 2 or 3 perks at 3 resets that is ridiculous. Def not weighted tho. Not for me at least. Easy to say I know.

Hc's havent been meta for years actually. Its just that people love them and will use them no matter what. Even when they are bad or average. As for the "just use bygones lol" Not all peoppe like pulse riffles, or likes to be forced to use THE meta guns. If you love to follow the meta, good for you but its not the case for a lot of players

Not all players prefer HCs…or literally any other weapon they personally disagree with using. Lmao Bungie made a massive mistake by not varying the metas each season, in the early going. This would’ve satisfied the player base far better than the resulting current climate. Personally, I’ve gravitated to all the metas and still varied my use, anyway. Hcs are the 2nd longest running meta in this game, besides the eternal SG meta.

Never said all players love hc's but whatever. And they havent been meta in years, especially since the AE bs they added. Smgs have been more meta than hc's in destiny 2. You also had a long autoriffle meta. Now a pulse riffle meta. I wont mention special ammo meta's because its basically snipers or shotguns with their nature of instakill hitscan weapons. And are always played with a primary weapon meta anyways.

[quote]Never said all players love hc's but whatever. And they havent been meta in years, especially since the AE bs they added. Smgs have been more meta than hc's in destiny 2. You also had a long autoriffle meta. Now a pulse riffle meta. I wont mention special ammo meta's because its basically snipers or shotguns with their nature of instakill hitscan weapons. And are always played with a primary weapon meta anyways.[/quote] I never said all players love HCs, either but “whatever.” Double special was always a thing in PvE. The auto meta was nowhere near as long as the 5 1/2 year HC meta. No. SMGs had a real reign for 4 months when recluse came out. Then a slight stirring with Osteo but mostly for PVE. The auto meta lasted about 6 months and the scout meta with Mida in the early going, for less than 4 months. Sprinkle in some long range fusion meta throughout this time, along with the famed LoW meta, perpetuating that ever on-going sg meta. I’m simply explaining to you, that players will always disagree about their favorite weapons to use in any mode. Some enjoy weapons that perform better for them on console, others on pc, others on Xim, others on Cronus, etc etc. It’s Fords and Chevys; nothing new. Most just like to -blam!- and moan.

Wait are we talking about pvp or pve ? Because pve primary weapon meta basically doesnr exist you just sue whatever you like and it works. As for pvp.... Scouts and autoriffles were the top meta for the whole d2 year 1 (And some last hope/antiope) Then year 2 was the golden era of hcs. Last word/luna/nf/spare ration etc.... Year 3 had almost a year straight of AR/recluse meta. From summoner, to hardlight, to suros to gnawing hunger. (I dont miss gnawing hunger/recluse + mountaintop meta). Then with beyond light, hc's have been THE top Meta only once, with the 120rpm meta (when they two tapped) (steady hand/igneous) (With a little peak a few month later during witchqueen where they had too much range) After that with witch queen we entered the infamous smg meta with multimach/shayura/immortal for a very long time at a point it made a lot of people quit pvp for a while (me included) During all these metas HC's were either good or average, but never THE meta, they are just a community favourite. Even when their range got gutted you still had lots of players using them because they synergize well with a fast paced gigh mobility gameplay. More than an autoriffle, scout or pulse that forces you to not jump as an example So my question is...when this 5 years and a half HC meta is located exactly ? If you include d1....it makes 3 years straight at best (even tough d1 itself wasnt only a hc meta, with the first months being autoriffles, and the 3rd year being overwhelmed with pulse riffles for a long time)

[quote]Wait are we talking about pvp or pve ? Because pve primary weapon meta basically doesnr exist you just sue whatever you like and it works. As for pvp.... Scouts and autoriffles were the top meta for the whole d2 year 1 (And some last hope/antiope) Then year 2 was the golden era of hcs. Last word/luna/nf/spare ration etc.... Year 3 had almost a year straight of AR/recluse meta. From summoner, to hardlight, to suros to gnawing hunger. (I dont miss gnawing hunger/recluse + mountaintop meta). Then with beyond light, hc's have been THE top Meta only once, with the 120rpm meta (when they two tapped) (steady hand/igneous) (With a little peak a few month later during witchqueen where they had too much range) After that with witch queen we entered the infamous smg meta with multimach/shayura/immortal for a very long time at a point it made a lot of people quit pvp for a while (me included) During all these metas HC's were either good or average, but never THE meta, they are just a community favourite. Even when their range got gutted you still had lots of players using them because they synergize well with a fast paced gigh mobility gameplay. More than an autoriffle, scout or pulse that forces you to not jump as an example So my question is...when this 5 years and a half HC meta is located exactly ? If you include d1....it makes 3 years straight at best (even tough d1 itself wasnt only a hc meta, with the first months being autoriffles, and the 3rd year being overwhelmed with pulse riffles for a long time)[/quote] So, just curious….how many PvP kills do you have? I don’t agree with your assessment at all. I’m no PvP god but I do have 230k kills. I can prove that, if you have your doubts. It just seems to that me you and I have not been playing the same game. The peak of the hc meta was when Luna and NF were 180s. Spare Rations had a great run, by itself. That doesn’t mean that HCs didn’t hold down the meta for 5 1/2 years. The natural ease of use and the increase in peripherals helped perpetuate it. Hardlight didn’t get used long enough to be the meta. Players complained more about that than even the Laser Tag “minute” we all enjoyed with Prom Lens. Bungie nerfed it so hard that it literally disappeared overnight. D2 year 1 meta was simply pulses and autos because there was nothing else in the armory. Jiangshi was used a bit, along with Nergal and Inaugural Address to follow on, with the raid that dropped.

Enough kills. And its not an assessement. Its a pvp meta recap. (Btw i forgot the deadman tales meta as well in beyond light, i think thats not a HC) (And i skipped the very short metas such as vex that got nerfed quickly (again) Ive been there during all of these metas. Just saying "i do not agree" isnt enough. Tell me what was meta during year 1 to today's year of d2. Name the weapons also sir. I invite you to take a look at pvp metas recap video on youtube you might be surprised (I forgot a lot of guns in the meta's i mentionned but i wont mention every guns that got used at the same period, as an example during the smg meta you also had tarrabah but its still a smg meta anyways i just mention the main ones)

Pre nerf deadmans’ in hip fire was absolutely a hand cannon in disguise.

Bit its a scout so nah