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8/31/2024 4:58:52 PM
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I wanna see pulses nerfed.
Same as scouts, its just boring when you need to use them because everyone else is and it just becomes half lane camping.
Its boring, just like an AR meta.
Bring back HCs!
Also undo almost every change made from the March 5th update onwards.
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What are you talking about? If you remove khvostov there's no other ARs in the top 40 guns. Elsie's is number 8, way behind 7 handcannons & shotguns. There's 1 other pulse in the top 30 guns. This is on usage & performance, both charts.
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Those charts show usage rates. People will always go to HCs due to popularity. Even back during the suros meta of D1 when HCs were useless they were still the most used weapon type. People love HCs and thats why they are always topping. Going by usage rates is not always accurate for that very reason. We are currently in a pulse and AR meta, the changes implemented by Bungie favour those weapons the most, people will still use HCs simply because of their feel and again due to favourtism.
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You are arguing with a Bronze tier player....no need to do that. He has needs to have ZERO opinion on something he is bad at. This is why the game is in the state it is in, Bungo listened to bad players and ruined it for the middle tier players.
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Change it to kills, it's even more dominated by rose & ace of spades.
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Again, if a weapon has high usage then it will have a high kill rate. They dont work to show meta 99% of the time. If 100 people use 1 weapon and 1 guy uses something different thats stronger the 100 people will accumulate more overall kills.
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[quote]Again, if a weapon has high usage then it will have a high kill rate. They dont work to show meta 99% of the time. If 100 people use 1 weapon and 1 guy uses something different thats stronger the 100 people will accumulate more overall kills.[/quote] [quote]I wanna see pulses nerfed. Same as scouts, [u][i][b]its just boring when you need to use them because everyone else is[/b][/i][/u] and it just becomes half lane camping. Its boring,.[/quote] Elsies rifles usage 1.8% Red death usage 1.4% Outbreak usage 1.4% I see what you mean, yeah.
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Youre going off of usage rates, im going off of actual experience. Youre trying to talk about PvP while being in the lowest bracket of PvP. Go play Trials, go play comp. In Trials every match at least half of the players have elsies on, in comp its the same. Actually go and get first hand data rather than turning to a website which tracks literally all of PvP including modes where pulses are not favourable like rift.
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just because a gun archetype is boring does not mean it should be nerfed. 120 hc's are actually much harder laning weapons than 340s as 340s require someone to not be peek shooting where as 120's can out peek shoot any gun in the game within their range. "Bring back HCs!" we are literally in a hand cannon meta right now. the most used gun is still rose and especially so in higher elo's/higher ranks in comp. Iggy is still the most broken weapon bungie every released with a god roll 40m range and 38-39 if you at least got a decent roll. with much much faster ads and strafe speed and per bullet damage than any other weapon outside of 120 scouts which are very bad right now.
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HCs are a fan favourite. We arent in a HC meta, havent been since march 5th, we have been in an Auto Rifle and Pulse Rifle meta. Even if HCs were the absolute worst weapons they would still have a high pick rate just down to favourtism.
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ah "HCs are a fan favorite" sure buddy. you know how that favortism originated? thorn 2 tapping in destiny 1. i know i was there i used it. it comes from handcannons being notoriously broken throughout the history of destiny. the only thing threatening the current hand cannon meta right now is the khvostov. and no if they were the worst weapons people would not use them in the high elo's of trials where everything is stat tracked and everyone cares about kd elo and win rate. they are used because they are strong. just like khvostov is used because it is strong. just like clever dragon was used because it was strong. so false. if 340's are nerfed because of player qq on forums because they refuse to get better at the game, the HC meta and khvostovs dominance will only become more apparent. then kvhostov will be nerfed and we will go from a 4 weapon archetype balanced meta down to a 2 weapon archetype meta and more people will leave the game and it will become more dead than it already is. I'm not advocating for 340s here. I'm advocating for gun balanced because lack there of it could be the final nail in the coffin of this game. be careful what you wish for.
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Ive been playing since day 1, i know the thorn meta (i used it myself, both when it came out and when it got buffed to allow 2 taps), HCs were popular before then even though we were strongly in a Suros and Red Death meta prior. HCs have always been used, not due to them being broken (though they have definitely had their share) but due to feel and favourtism. Go to the original Suros meta in D1 and there were still HCs going around, Red Death meta was the same. Hell, even when Vex was busted people didnt go try get it, they stuck with HCs which were performing worse than Autos, Pulses and Vex. HCs will always be used and have high usage rates, they always have yet they havent always been absolutely busted.
