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8/16/2024 11:48:21 AM
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I’m amazed at bungie for ignoring the millions of solo players trying to have their voices heard but will patch guns with “bugs” in less than a day.
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  • They should fix the bugs in a day dual destiny has no bugs 🤷

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  • Millions? This game hasnt had those numbers in a while, also the solo players that complain are a very small vocal minority, most players just get it done. What does 'Dual' mean? Youve done a raid yes? If you have then you should have no issue saying at most (if youre on light, say the numbers for 1st clock and if you need to say all number for each clock callout) 36 words (with 30 of them being numbers) On the low end (dark alignment, no clock 1 callouts and only the correct clock 2 callouts) you would be saying 6 things (3 words and 3 numbers). It is not a problem and most people have it done.

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  • People on here, reddit, Facebook, all of social media hate this mission.

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  • [quote]People on here, reddit, Facebook, all of social media hate this mission.[/quote] Way to go It's not too often people clearly post how deluded they are. It's usually confusing until they clarify. You've removed any doubt and any need for clarification with the nonsense quoted above.

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  • Edited by Sen: 8/16/2024 4:52:48 PM
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    The moment you realize that you're part of a vocal minority the better. At this point this is common sense. Also it's so weird that solo players don't complain about the multitude of exotics and rewards that come from activities that require you to have more than one person in the activity. Why all of a sudden now are you guys complaining about having to play with other people. You play the game so you know that raids, GMs etc exist already. At this point you're just complaining that the multiplayer aspect of the game exists in the first place. You're complaining about the genre of game you're playing and you want the genre to change instead of simply changing yourself and stop being an entitled whiner.

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  • It’s actually not the minority like you think it is.

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  • Edited by Sen: 8/16/2024 5:03:06 PM
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    It is. Because this is how the game has been since launch and most players have the common sense to group up and get stuff done. Especially in an MMO lite. You can't deny the genre you're playing.

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  • If it was the minority you wouldn’t see people trying to have their voices heard all over social media websites.

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  • Edited by Sen: 8/16/2024 5:06:44 PM
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    Yes. VOCAL minority. Hence the VOCAL part. The fact that the minority is VOCAL isn't the gotcha you think it is. Dual destiny posts praising it get more upvotes than down votes. I can use other social media too.

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  • Most people are scared to speak out because all of us are getting bashed for wanting the game to actually be inclusive to all. When they make a solo alternative thousands of players would flock back to the game.

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    The game will never be inclusive to all because then the genre of the game has lost its point and there would be no point in having a multiplayer part of the game. You're literally the same crowd of people who think that soulsborne games should have an easy mode: That's not the point.

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  • An alternative is not as bad as you people make it seem. Multiplayers would play the multiplayer version and solos could play the solo version. The fact that multiplayers don’t understand that is surprising.

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  • Edited by Sen: 8/16/2024 5:24:08 PM
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    An alternative is bad because then the people on the multiplayer side will have longer queues. Raids will lose their purpose. GMs will lose their purpose. The small amount of high end activities that require others will lose their purpose. Ultimately diminishing the existence of multiplayer in the first place. You don't think it's a big deal because you don't actually do the things that take an ounce of energy to do. You can't say something is not that big of a deal, stir up a fuss to the point where the genre of game you're playing needs to change when you are the one who came into the game and should have known what you got yourself into when, commercials, advertisement for clans and trailers showing constant multiplayer activities. YOU are the foreign entity into a genre of multiplayer. You want the game to bend to your will when the game already had its genre known for years. Again. Why are you complaining about this now when raids, GMs, etc have existed for years. Why is dual destiny the last straw? Why aren't raid exotics and microcosm talked about? Why aren't hard or not matchmade seasonal activities talk about. Why isn't any non-match made harder activity talked about? You want to know why? Because people have the common sense to know the genre of game they're playing and understand that they need other players in order to get all the loot that they want. This is why you're the vocal minority. Let me be clear here. You will never get what you want. You need to understand that and accept that. You are the problem and you can make yourself the solution. You're literally complaining about yourself. If your anxiety is that severe to the point where you can't talk to people on a video game then you need to go to therapy. I'm not even joking.

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  • [quote]An alternative is bad because then the people on the multiplayer side will have longer queues. Raids will lose their purpose. GMs will lose their purpose. The small amount of high end activities that require others will lose their purpose. [/quote] So by your own admission, you’re saying players would prefer to play solo instead of in groups. Is that how it works? I’m sure players that prefer to group up to do content would still do so, they just wouldn’t have the players that prefer solo content to fill out their numbers. Which also suggests the multiplayer aspect of raids etc isn’t as popular as the elitists would have people believe. Go figure.

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  • Edited by Sen: 8/16/2024 10:59:45 PM
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    That's not the fault of the company to make a multiplayer game and then have people CHOOSE to not do the multiplayer part of the game. I don't think people realize how lucky they are to even be able to progress in this game solo as much as you can. It used to be in D1 you couldn't get max level unless you DID raid. Now you can do whatever you want and people are still crying about it. My take is that there needs to be a Point A to Point B. Players should be encouraged to do endgame content while making it ok to be under leveled for basic content. You should be happy with the amount of content you can do while solo in this MMO lite. Again they're the minority who miss the point of the game. So they will not receive rewards geared towards people who play together. It's fine to play solo but the people who do need to realize they will not get everything in the game and the game doesn't need to have an alternative for those activities. Simple as. The solo players will play regardless because they CAN. Multiplayer people will choose to go solo because that content will be easier and loot will be easier to get. Why would people go through the hassle of finding other players when they could do it solo and have an easier ride doing so? I'll tell you why. Because this such a NON issue and solo players aren't ok with not having all the loot multiplayer people have. Which is baffling.

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  • A very vocal minority are the ones complaining the ones who enjoy the game simply play it they don’t post on the forums Dual destiny is one mission that requires 2 People that prefer to group up don’t come here the odd time there is a mission that must be run solo to demand that bungie opens the mission up to have groups 🤷 just entitled people complaining

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  • You understand that no matter what thats a vocal minority. A tiny percentage of people actually complain online. The majority of the playerbase who actually have access to the mission (those who own and have completed The Final Shape campaign) have actually done it (nearly 75%) Not everyone who owns TFS have completed it and not everyone cares for the class item. Most solo players have finished it, those who havent and complain asking for a handout are just toddlers throwing a tantrum for not getting their way. Grow up and either do the mission as it is intended or accept you wont get the item. You dont complain that raid exotics dont drop from an easier solo source, or that adepts dont drop from patrol. So why complain now?

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  • [quote] Most solo players have finished it, those who havent and complain asking for a handout are just toddlers throwing a tantrum for not getting their way. Grow up and either do the mission as it is intended or accept you wont get the item.[/quote] So anyone who disagrees is a toddler and is throwing a tantrum and should grow up? Who is asking for a handout? Asking for an alternative way of earning an exotic class item that is synergistic with a new subclass, isn’t by any definition asking for a handout. That’s not any different to asking the developer to improve drop rates from chests, or other alternative options that have been asked for by the players. There are two sides of the community, both solo and non solo players asking for improvements here, just because you disagree with one side of those requests doesn’t mean you should try to belittle those asking. We are all part of the same community. I’m asking for improvements for both sides, not just one aspect, if you have nothing constructive to add to those requests perhaps take a step back to look at this from the other side as well, instead of trying to impose your own beliefs on others.

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