You are aware that the next episode isn't until October? lol

[quote]You are aware that the next episode isn't until October? lol[/quote] Okay? Whats your point? Lmao we just went through season of the wish that was MONTHS long and i believe there was a refresh of bounties so people could transmog the into the light armor all unplanned stuff. We are not getting any new armor for a long while.

...solstice? And in this first Episode they added like four different armor sets because it launched with TFS so ten bounties ain't it

[quote]...solstice? And in this first Episode they added like four different armor sets because it launched with TFS so ten bounties ain't it[/quote] You are just dumb if you are trying to transmog all the gear in the game Dunno what else to say You get enough for 2 full sets you dont need anymore. You can literally test how it looks before you even buy it

Why are you insulting me and telling me what I can and can't do while defending an anti-player system... I change my look fairly often because there's so much I could make, which is why I'd like more tokens. They aren't going to get any money out of a lot of people for tokens, so what they can do is get more time playing (which is what would happen if they gave more tokens and thus created more customization).

[quote]Why are you insulting me and telling me what I can and can't do while defending an anti-player system... I change my look fairly often because there's so much I could make, which is why I'd like more tokens. They aren't going to get any money out of a lot of people for tokens, so what they can do is get more time playing (which is what would happen if they gave more tokens and thus created more customization).[/quote] Nothing is anti-player about it you are upset that you cant get every item transmogged Literally you are throwing a tantrum online because you cant do something almost no one cares about and has no impact

"Nothing is anti-player about it" "You can't do that" Nice... Tantrum? All I did was comment on something I'd like to see changed. You're the one aggressively replying to [i]every single post[/i] on this page arguing and insulting people who agree with me. Maybe check yourself before you wreck yourself next time.

[quote]"Nothing is anti-player about it" "You can't do that" Nice... Tantrum? All I did was comment on something I'd like to see changed. You're the one aggressively replying to [i]every single post[/i] on this page arguing and insulting people who agree with me. Maybe check yourself before you wreck yourself next time.[/quote] Checking to see every argument on something is a normal thing to do when creating a discussion If you want a echo chamber go for it, but dont make a claim like anti-consumer when you get upset at something

Checking to fight with every single guy on a page is [i]not[/i] a normal thing to do, however. Limiting how much a player can do without spending money is by definition anti-player, as players want to do things without spending money. What are you hoping to accomplish here? You just look foolish coming back again and again fruitlessly.

[quote]Checking to fight with every single guy on a page is [i]not[/i] a normal thing to do, however. Limiting how much a player can do without spending money is by definition anti-player, as players want to do things without spending money. What are you hoping to accomplish here? You just look foolish coming back again and again fruitlessly.[/quote] I typed less than 10 words with 3 other people here idk why you are acting like this is a massive post. [quote]Limiting how much a player can do without spending money is by definition anti-player[/quote] Its actually not because this system didn’t always exist and it really never needed to, it was added via player demand. Bungie made it clear how they were doing this system and players were ok, the system launched with alot of grind and was promptly changed to what we have now with less grinding. Just because you have to spend money after using 30 transmogs (10 per class limited to that class) isn’t anti-player. I get you live in a fantasy land where Bungie isn’t a company but they are and if people wanna impulsively unlock every ornament then they can pay. No one is unlocking 10 a season and using all 10. Anti-Consumer would be on the level of TFD where grinding is so hard it practically incentivizes you to pay to skip it all. This isn’t that at all.

You are wrong and the stats show it. You are alone in your defense of this system, and I have many votes agreeing. I think I'm done.

[quote]You are just dumb if you are trying to transmog all the gear in the game[/quote] You should be able to though.

[quote][quote]You are just dumb if you are trying to transmog all the gear in the game[/quote] You should be able to though.[/quote] You can so why say that? You just have to pay like every other MMORPG that’s successful

Well I can't I have a hard limit of 10 items per char per season. Other MMO's have no cap to their transmog. Regardless, again you should be able to though.

[quote]Well I can't I have a hard limit of 10 items per char per season. Other MMO's have no cap to their transmog. Regardless, again you should be able to though.[/quote] Other MMOs charge premium currencies that you can trade with and often its just purchased with real money

A lot of them also do not limit you to a certain amount of transmogs (over an arbritrary period) and can be done entirely through ingame currency with no limits.

[quote]A lot of them also do not limit you to a certain amount of transmogs (over an arbritrary period) and can be done entirely through ingame currency with no limits.[/quote] You leave out how that “ingame currency” can also be purchased with money and usually require large amounts of resources to get one piece of gear “transmoged”

Yet you are given the choice and for WoW isn't it just gold? Bungie on the other hand doesn't give you a choice, you are hard limited and that honestly shouldn't be the case.

[quote]Yet you are given the choice and for WoW isn't it just gold? Bungie on the other hand doesn't give you a choice, you are hard limited and that honestly shouldn't be the case.[/quote] You wanna compare the two as well how easy it is to transmog in Destiny? Cause in Destiny its way easier Also in WoW its a extremely limiting and complicated process https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Transmogrification As well there is no need to transmog everything, i use the system and still have remaining uses of the system. If you wanna do everything including rares and world drops or whatever then thats on you. Its again not uncommon for games like this to monetize this. If you wanna sit on a pathetic hill and act like a company shouldn’t make money on things then go for it but dont go online and spout that as if they are the ONLY ones doing it in their genre when they aren’t. Again thats ON YOU that you wanna transmog everything this isn’t a singleplayer game its a MMORPG you shouldn’t have everything for free.

[quote]You wanna compare the two as well how easy it is to transmog in Destiny? Cause in Destiny its way easier Also in WoW its a extremely limiting and complicated process https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Transmogrification[/quote] Did you seriously just post a wiki page to try and obsfucate it and make it seem like its "complicated" lmao, least obvious Bungie shill. [quote]As well there is no need to transmog everything, i use the system and still have remaining uses of the system.[/quote] Why not though? [quote]If you wanna do everything including rares and world drops or whatever then thats on you. Its again not uncommon for games like this to monetize this.[/quote] I never said its bad for it to be monetised. [quote]If you wanna sit on a pathetic hill and act like a company shouldn’t make money on things then go for it but dont go online and spout that as if they are the ONLY ones doing it in their genre when they aren’t. Again thats ON YOU that you wanna transmog everything this isn’t a singleplayer game its a MMORPG you shouldn’t have everything for free.[/quote] Do you get paid by the hour or posts to make arguments up in your head? At what point did I say they shouldn't make money lmao.

[quote][quote]You wanna compare the two as well how easy it is to transmog in Destiny? Cause in Destiny its way easier Also in WoW its a extremely limiting and complicated process https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Transmogrification[/quote] Did you seriously just post a wiki page to try and obsfucate it and make it seem like its "complicated" lmao, least obvious Bungie shill. [quote]As well there is no need to transmog everything, i use the system and still have remaining uses of the system.[/quote] Why not though? [quote]If you wanna do everything including rares and world drops or whatever then thats on you. Its again not uncommon for games like this to monetize this.[/quote] I never said its bad for it to be monetised. [quote]If you wanna sit on a pathetic hill and act like a company shouldn’t make money on things then go for it but dont go online and spout that as if they are the ONLY ones doing it in their genre when they aren’t. Again thats ON YOU that you wanna transmog everything this isn’t a singleplayer game its a MMORPG you shouldn’t have everything for free.[/quote] Do you get paid by the hour or posts to make arguments up in your head? At what point did I say they shouldn't make money lmao.[/quote] A)Did you read it? Because you can easily see how limited the game is you quite literally can only transmog of the item has the same animation and if youve played WoW not every sword has the same animation same for bows. B)Because there is no need you wont use 90% of the available transmogs because they aren’t that good. You get 10 per character which is more then enough for 2 full sets and then some. I shouldn’t have to explain why you definitely wont need to transmog the vendor armor which hasn’t looked good in years. Maybe the new destination/seasonal gear but guess what! That is 8 pieces of gear 2 short of the free 10 you get seasonaly C)You are saying that and are LITERALLY insulting me for defending it being monetized later on D) You are literally making that argument so why even claim that you aren’t? Who are you trying to gaslight???

[quote]A)Did you read it? Because you can easily see how limited the game is you quite literally can only transmog of the item has the same animation and if youve played WoW not every sword has the same animation same for bows.[/quote] So you are talking about a two-handed sword compared to a one handed since they need to be the same type? Big woop just like I can't transmog a chest piece on my helmet slot. Destiny doesn't let me transmog over exotic armor pieces and lacks an option for weapon transmog entirely. [quote]B)Because there is no need you wont use 90% of the available transmogs because they aren’t that good. You get 10 per character which is more then enough for 2 full sets and then some. I shouldn’t have to explain why you definitely wont need to transmog the vendor armor which hasn’t looked good in years. Maybe the new destination/seasonal gear but guess what! That is 8 pieces of gear 2 short of the free 10 you get seasonaly[/quote] subjective opinion of 90% of stuff doesn't look good, you should be able to earn transmog with no limit. Also, if 90% of transmogs wouldn't be used then what harm is there in removing the bounty cap? [quote]C)You are saying that and are LITERALLY insulting me for defending it being monetized later on[/quote] Because you are losing it over the mere suggestion that Bungie should remove an arbritrary cap on transmog. [quote]D) You are literally making that argument so why even claim that you aren’t? Who are you trying to gaslight???[/quote] Who do you think buys the transmog tokens? I'll give you a hint its not people doing the bounties. Just a little math here... If I have 99 warlock helmets to unlock that would take 99 bounties and since your average player does PvE mainly they'll take strike bounties. You can only pickup 1 bounty at a time and a strike one takes you 4 strikes to complete, with the average strike time being 10 minutes its 40 minutes to 1 helmet meaning it would take me roughly 400 strikes which would equate to 4000 minutes (66 hours) just to unlock all the helmets on just my warlock. The time spent isn't even an issue its just the fact you are hard capped, the only players who would be able to unlock everything would be the most hardcore players and your average player who buys the tokens would still do that anyway instead of doing the bounties. You know like other MMOs.

[quote][quote]A)Did you read it? Because you can easily see how limited the game is you quite literally can only transmog of the item has the same animation and if youve played WoW not every sword has the same animation same for bows.[/quote] So you are talking about a two-handed sword compared to a one handed since they need to be the same type? Big woop just like I can't transmog a chest piece on my helmet slot. Destiny doesn't let me transmog over exotic armor pieces and lacks an option for weapon transmog entirely. [quote]B)Because there is no need you wont use 90% of the available transmogs because they aren’t that good. You get 10 per character which is more then enough for 2 full sets and then some. I shouldn’t have to explain why you definitely wont need to transmog the vendor armor which hasn’t looked good in years. Maybe the new destination/seasonal gear but guess what! That is 8 pieces of gear 2 short of the free 10 you get seasonaly[/quote] subjective opinion of 90% of stuff doesn't look good, you should be able to earn transmog with no limit. Also, if 90% of transmogs wouldn't be used then what harm is there in removing the bounty cap? [quote]C)You are saying that and are LITERALLY insulting me for defending it being monetized later on[/quote] Because you are losing it over the mere suggestion that Bungie should remove an arbritrary cap on transmog. [quote]D) You are literally making that argument so why even claim that you aren’t? Who are you trying to gaslight???[/quote] Who do you think buys the transmog tokens? I'll give you a hint its not people doing the bounties. Just a little math here... If I have 99 warlock helmets to unlock that would take 99 bounties and since your average player does PvE mainly they'll take strike bounties. You can only pickup 1 bounty at a time and a strike one takes you 4 strikes to complete, with the average strike time being 10 minutes its 40 minutes to 1 helmet meaning it would take me roughly 400 strikes which would equate to 4000 minutes (66 hours) just to unlock all the helmets on just my warlock. The time spent isn't even an issue its just the fact you are hard capped, the only players who would be able to unlock everything would be the most hardcore players and your average player who buys the tokens would still do that anyway instead of doing the bounties. You know like other MMOs.[/quote] A) Not arguing strawman arguments you clearly haven’t played WoW B)No one said anything about exotics C)Its not subjective, and the point is to spend wisely not act like there is no limit. This is a MMORPG your actions should always require thinking. You are just making a strawman argument here asking why cant transmog bounties be infinite when thats what the debate is. D)How can you literally say that you aren’t against them making money and say this. They are a company grow up they can monetize what they want and if you use some brain use then you can transmog all the gear you will likely use. E)The people who buy the most are “collectors” and people who obsessively want everything. Who cares if it takes 4000 minutes in your example? You wanna sit down and blame Bungie for making you do that? You are i assume a grown-up blaming. In reality if you do strikes optimally like a PvE main would then it would take 5-7 minutes per strike which vastly cuts stuff down The only reason hardcore players would grind this its because there is nothing else to grind highlightibg a bigger issue

[quote]A) Not arguing strawman arguments you clearly haven’t played WoW[/quote] From a simple google search it just seems to only be about the weapon hand type not an animation. [quote]B)No one said anything about exotics[/quote] Its a restriction on an already hard capped system. [quote]C)Its not subjective, and the point is to spend wisely not act like there is no limit. This is a MMORPG your actions should always require thinking. You are just making a strawman argument here asking why cant transmog bounties be infinite when thats what the debate is.[/quote] This isn't core progression or gameplay its vanity why does it "require thinking" lol. [quote]D)How can you literally say that you aren’t against them making money and say this. They are a company grow up they can monetize what they want and if you use some brain use then you can transmog all the gear you will likely use.[/quote] [quote]E)The people who buy the most are “collectors” and people who obsessively want everything.[/quote] No most people who buy the transmogs are not doing the bounties. Considering how blatantly annoying they make doing transmog in the first place there shouldn't be a limit, you have to go to the tower to pickup 1 bounty of a type to then do it for 40 minutes then return to the tower to interact with the machine to finally get your token and then pickup another bounty. Its obvious how unintuitive the system is the only people purchasing it are those that don't want to spend time grinding it. Removing the limit wouldn't stop those same people from buying it as they are doing that already and for other players that have time to invest it would give Bungie more engagement. [quote]Who cares if it takes 4000 minutes in your example? You wanna sit down and blame Bungie for making you do that? You are i assume a grown-up blaming. In reality if you do strikes optimally like a PvE main would then it would take 5-7 minutes per strike which vastly cuts stuff down[/quote] Most strikes do not take 5-7 minutes. But the time as I said isn't an issue, I was using that as an example of even if you removed the limit it would take A LOT of time to unlock just all of my warlocks helmets so removing the limit wouldn't affect the average person who is buying them. Removing it would be a net positive for those hardcore players and would even give incentive to maybe go out of your way to collect armor you haven't had dropped just so you can unlock it for transmog... again engagement. [quote]The only reason hardcore players would grind this its because there is nothing else to grind highlightibg a bigger issue[/quote] There is players in WoW that grind transmog, so adding that as something to grind would just be another lever Bungie can use to maintain engagement.