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Edited by Sen:
6/18/2024 11:41:49 AM
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You will not be able to access a handful of the game if you don't make friends. This is not an issue with the game and never has been. This is a requirement that has always been in the series since Vault of Glass. This concept isn't new. The concept of meeting a requirement to do something (even in single player games), is not new. This is how it's been. A lot of people have come out of the wood works to say they have anxiety and for people who have anxiety, they sure are social on here.
Me and my friend were discussing it last night:
"They have am anxiety of letting someone down. At worst, you'll never see them again if you LFG. At best, you'll make friends. You're worried about letting people down? Well you're letting people down by making those posts."
At this point I'm starting to think that people who want to play solo should just.... Play another game. I'm not trying to say this to be mean, but you will never be catered to and you will never get what you want. If Bungie caters to you, then the whole point of destiny is shattered. Bungie has always wanted players to come together to beat harder and challenging activities since they introduced clans. Especially with how they revamped clans in TFS with hawthorne being an actual vendor that you level up. 1,250 exp for doing a single encounter on a raid. Literally dropping rewards like crazy.
It's sad to see many people not want to do things together with a friend. I didn't come to the forum to complain I'm season of the Undying when I had anxiety from losing my group (they just went to college, stopped playing etc). I found a Sherpa, learned how to raid in GoS with all the glitches and extreme lag and met friends that I now raid with for 5 years. I can balance out my life to the point where I don't even need to think about it. Real life friends, online friends, work etc. it's actually fun to balance. Now I'm the first one to say I want to do the mechanics. Ad clear is boring. Give ME SOMETHING to do.
But yeah. It's not that Bungie hates solo players, it's that solo players aren't fitting into the game because they reject the idea of even playing with others. Thus, handicapping themselves in what is essentially a non-issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/s/p6PGZpBQNN
Learn from this person. This can be applied to any part of the game because this is also what I went through. Just rip the bandaid off. Find a Sherpa. You can do it. I know you can.
Also
https://x.com/TheTeawrex/status/1801671535704551653?t=PGSE1Fe1yzBFgqY5t2X_cA&s=19
https://x.com/TheTeawrex/status/1801679617176309846?t=PGSE1Fe1yzBFgqY5t2X_cA&s=19
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[quote] A lot of people have come out of the wood works to say they have anxiety and for people who have anxiety, they sure are social on here. Me and my friend were discussing it last night: "They have am anxiety of letting someone down. At worst, you'll never see them again if you LFG. At best, you'll make friends. You're worried about letting people down? Well you're letting people down by making those posts."[/quote] You and your friend are very ignorant as to what social anxiety is and how it effects people. Social anxiety doesn't mean someone is afraid of letting someone else down. It means social interaction makes them anxious to varying degrees. It's a scale from light to extreme. Some people who have social anxiety just get awkward around other people, they're not sure what to say and feel whatever they may say might be wrong. This would be on the lighter end of the scale. On the other side you have people with extreme social anxiety. These people may find it impossible to talk (verbally) to other people due to extreme fear of saying the wrong thing or they may think that everything they say sounds stupid, so they can't bring themselves to talk. A lot of people with social anxiety play videogames because it gives them a route to feeling like they're being social and connecting with others, while not being the focus of attention or having communication forced. That is their issue with this mission - in order to pursue it they have to have someone else's attention on them and they have to talk. And a lot of people are fine talking through text on forums because it gives them the space and time to consider what they're writing, to double-check and triple-check that it's what they mean to say before sending. If you have a bit of time, say an hour or so and Netflix, watch the first few episodes of Komi Can't Communicate if you want to get a better idea of what social anxiety is.
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Edited by Sen: 6/18/2024 9:18:19 PMThank you for actually taking the time to respond with something insightful rather than insulting me. However it is not bungie's job or to give solace to people who have anxiety and just want to play the game. If that's the case, then they should be using the game as a way to improve instead of being upset that the game isn't 100% molded to reach their goals. This game isn't therapy and was never advertised as one. If people have problems, then they need to seek that elsewhere. A video game, whether they use it as a means to alleviate their anxiety, is not a place for that. It was not intended or created for anxiety victims specifically. Exactly why this game isn't tailored to solo players specifically. If we put that logic into any game, then MMOs wouldn't exist. End game wouldn't exist, etc. I know it's not easy. It's hard. It's hard to rip off the band aid. But they shouldn't blame Bungie for them not being able to. They shouldn't blame streamers for not being able to. This is between them and their anxiety. Also there have been multiple people that their anxiety stems from letting someone down. While it's ignorant to say that's the only type of anxiety. I never stated that was the only type. I was specifically saying that to that specific type of person who are like this. Acting ridiculous. I also think it's every disingenuous to say that people with anxiety exist so the game should be more tailored to them and missions like this shouldn't exist. They're taking a problem that Bungie did not create and randomly making it Bungie's responsibility to cater to them whilst also making those who enjoy the mission realize that they may never have a mission like this again. It just seems people are using anxiety as an excuse to get their way without actually attacking the main problem (the anxiety within themselves). I will take the time to watch Komi. I have been meaning to watch it. Thank you.
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Edited by Mortal_Resonance: 6/18/2024 10:05:50 PMOh, I agree that games aren't intended to be therapy, but they are something that can be used as a form of therapy or solace. I do think that a lot of people pulling the anxiety card are overstating their level of anxiety, after all anxiety is normal - we all experience it at some point if we're faced with doing something that makes us nervous, but that doesn't mean we have an anxiety disorder. My comment was more so directed at explaining what social anxiety actually is in response to the implication that sufferers are just afraid of letting someone down. The way I look at the whole situation (and other stuff like raid exotics) is that if you really want the reward, you have to put in the effort (applies to therapy as well). If you're not willing to try, then maybe the reward isn't for you. That being said, I do hope that they make the class exotic a reward on a different challenge as well, to ease the burden on those with true/extreme social anxiety.
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Edited by Sen: 6/18/2024 10:16:09 PMYou know what? I agree. At this point, if people truly want to do the mission, they can. It's just that a lot of people will be upset when and if that time comes when there's an alternative path. I personally don't mind when something is made easier. But it's upsetting to see that people aren't able to face their fears. It's not their fault though. I have been there with a lot of things and improved over time. Ripped the bandaid off multiple times IRL and in this game. I guess I kind of take it personal when someone flat out refuses to do these things and rather insults the mission in question and those who participate in it. I will further try and understand the situation more thoroughly. I'm just glad I didn't lose myself in all of this. As in spread negativity. I believe that the personal lessons in my life have led me to have more empathy and look at things at multiple perspectives. Thank you for reminding me of that. A lot of people will say "Lol suck it up buttercup" but I like to give explanations in a calm manner. This, right here, you and me, should be how the forum is conducted. Let's appreciate that. Thank you for the chat. And will make sure to watch Komi (I have many anime on the backburner and I am drowning in unfinished anime) [spoiler]help[/spoiler]
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What a bunch of BS
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What an idiotic take. Are you actually able to read or are you just that entitled/stupid?
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Edited by Sen: 6/18/2024 9:01:45 PMJust noticed that you weren't talking to me. Sorry. I blocked the guy so I can't see what he's saying. Don't have time for babies on this forum.
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What a very insightful response. Don't waste my time ever again.
