[quote]Anything that's good is considered "Too Strong" by entitled snowflakes trying to sway the meta in there favor And no I am not defending my crutch, I'm more of a pulse rifle guy in PvP Bungie needs to stop listening, or respond by buffing other weapons to counter the strong weapons , like SMGs,Sidearms and Fusions are a good counter to sliding shotgun apes[/quote] They are too strong. Any halfwit could see that. When they review their data, I'm sure they can extrapolate that for themselves. What I have proposed wouldn't affect their ability to counter shotguns unless they reduce damage to a great extreme. They still require adjustment after the last nerf. I'm not asking for them to be destroyed. They nerfed them cause they recognize there's an issue, the nerf wasn't enough. I'm offering feedback. That's why the forums are here. Bungie needs to listen to people that care about balance and have more experience with weapons or consistently find them operating out of intended scenarios. The people that find success with them vs those that don't. Especially in a Crucible setting.