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9/15/2023 1:32:22 AM
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It’s a good face. Love it. It deserves it. (Full heteronormative, incoming….) I struggle to understand why women are so much harder on their appearance—-and each others—than men are. Learn to accept yourself and be comfortable in your own skin. You’ll be happier, and you’ll attract other happy people like a magnet.
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  • Make no assumptions. I am happy. Probably a lot happier than most women that obsess over their face.

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  • I make no assumptions. I’m simply responding to what you said. …and if I were completely off the mark, you simply would have said, “Thank you.” “The Lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

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  • Dude. You did make an assumption. And I politely and unemotionally corrected it. It’s not that deep.

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  • Edited by TheArtist: 9/15/2023 2:21:48 PM
    When you are ready to accept a compliment without biting the hand that offered it, you will understand what I was talking about. When you are comfortable accepting the compassion that someone is inspired to offer you in response to a moment of sincerity and vulnerability on your part…and see it as the act of lovingkindness that it is. You will understand. That day is probably coming. But it is not today. It’s a good face. Love it, because it deserves it. Your battle is not with me.

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  • Allow me to be vulnerable once again then. This post was (understandably) misinterpreted by a lot of people. My intention wasn’t to project insecurity and gain sympathy/praise. I am not insecure about my face, I have no strong feelings towards it. I only wrote my spiel about how strange it is to not know my own face, and to have such a disconnect that I barely consider it a part of me. I personally hate it when girls post a photo of themselves with some self-hating caption to rack up supportive comments and testaments to their beauty. I do acknowledge that this post is strange, and difficult to respond to, but it isn’t self hatred and I didn’t need reassurance. Having people call me pretty or telling me to love myself just doesn’t sit right with me, because it isn’t the kind of reception I necessarily aimed for. You’ll just have to forgive me for not welcoming the compliment, it isn’t any affront to you, it just isn’t for me. I only meant to correct the assumption that I am unhappy about my looks, and I feel weird racking up compliments that I didn’t mean to provoke.

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  • Edited by TheArtist: 9/15/2023 7:31:40 PM
    The kindness is making you uncomfortable. Which is an indictment of the times in which we live, and how frayed the bonds of community have become. Let me explain what happened here. As is often the case with art, you poured your BEING into it…(and along with your words) you gave us a glimpse of who you are. Underneath all the accumulated wear and tear of life. That human essence that we all share is beautiful. You “disarmed” for a moment and we’re vulnerable…and others also “disarmed” and responded with kindness. In Buddhist terms, you dared to show us you True Nature, and the world responded back with Compassion and Lovingkindness. Not because you manipulated us somehow…but because this is who we all are when we put fear, anger, greed, and pride away. For just a moment. But your armor went back up, and you’re trying to reject the kindness and invalidate it because you are uncomfortable with it. I’m not. I said what I said because I meant what I said. You gave all of us a gift of shared humanity, that brought out the best in us…for just a moment. This is who I am at my core and I make no apologies for it. Now sit down, shut up and let us show you a little unconditional love for a moment, woman. Stop making this unnecessarily complicated. 😎

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  • My guy it's not that deep. Your original comment was kind, but you are insisting a little more than necessary. You also did make an assumption about it that she did not mean. It might have been unintentionally implied, and she corrected it. It should have ended there.

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  • Damn this Kelly guy has finally lost it

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  • Can't say I'm surprised tbh.

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  • Or she personalized a statement that wasn’t personal observation, and in the process revealed more about herself than she intended….

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  • Or the much more likely scenario is that you read too much into something. I highly doubt you know her more than she knows herself. And a simple wording mistake, if you can even call it that, is not indicative of anything all the time.

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  • Whatever game you wish to play, I’m not interested. Find another playmate. Anyway, I was speaking to her not you…and I was making a point for her benefit not yours. That art can evoke the spiritual in its purest form. Which is why she did not get the response she expected, but something much more profound. But you ironically—as usual—the more you dig in, the more you are demonstrating my point. Severing that communal connection and letting ego and the kleshas back in. You should be pleased. Nice work.

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  • I play no game. It's not that deep. It's a nice picture of her trying to draw herself objectively. It isn't any high brow philosophy or deep message of communal structures or how we interact as a society. I know you mean well. I don't think anyone here doubts that. But your sincerity is being tarnished by your ego and the need to read something that is not even there. It is not that we don't understand your point, it is that it does not exist here.

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  • Thanks LZ. You’re completely correct, I didn’t really want to keep responding to him because he just wasn’t gonna get it. You do

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  • Of course. I don't know what he's doing right now. Your messages and explanations were quite clear. But I can't say I'm very surprised.

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  • We don’t see the world as it is. We see the world as we are. Now go find another playmate. You’re embarrassing yourself. Seriously. All you’re doing is embodying the very point you are trying to deny, and are utterly blind to it…. I’m trying to get you to stop, but you refuse to take the hint….

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  • I don't think I'm the one embarrassing myself in this situation.

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  • …and that’s the problem. Which is why you keep digging into a point even she has let go of and moved on from. And why you keep unknowingly making my point for me. Again.

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  • Because you are being obstinate despite several people telling you that you are off the mark. But you refuse to admit that you misunderstood something and made an incorrect assumption. Because you don't think you can be wrong. There is no grand point. There is no deep philosophy. There is no hidden message of some sort of profound impact. You are just wrong. And you are reaching to the moon to try to come up with an explanation about how you are still right in some way when no such reality exists. Take her at her word and not at your assumptions based on a misreading on your end. Lest your sincerity will be lost if it hasn't already been.

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  • Edited by TheArtist: 9/17/2023 2:10:38 AM
    What “several people”? There ONLY YOU whose need to be right has kept this going almost 24 hours after everyone else had moved on. [i]What I am aware of is not defined by YOUR limits. You are defined by those limits.[/i] Let me put the dots close together since tmuou didn’t really read the exchange you are obnoxiously weighing in on. 1. She responded the way that she did because she personalized a parenthetical comment that was a general comment about how much harder women are on themselves than men are where body image is concerned. But in doing so she revealed something about herself and her mindset that she might not have intended to 2. She freely admitted that she did not get the reaction from the forum that she had expected. 3. I took the time to explain why she got the reaction that she did….and what it represented. 4. When I pointed out that it appeared that the kindness and good will that she was receiving was making her uncomfortable…she didn’t dispute it. Still hasn’t disputed it. In fact she seems to have let the matter drop. 5. But now you come swinging out of left field hellbent on arguing over something that both she and I have let drop. In the process—-with your behavior—ironically demonstrating the very point you are futilely trying to argue against, rightfighter. You are embodying the very pride and ego that everyone else let drop for a moment, in order to respond to her with kindness. The kindness that—in times of disaster—-move strangers to risk their lives to help others. An altruism that is part of our human nature. While You come in here fully armed and ready for ego-battle, and lost before you even fired a shot. Because the moment you committed to fighting me and being right? You lost…and you still haven’t figured it out. Now either let this go or get muted. Because I’m tired of this…and I’m tired of you hijacking an interaction that is over and you were never a part of. Sullying what was a rather remarkable—and rare—-moment of true community.

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  • It is not that deep.... as you have been told several times by a few people. I can lead you to the water. But I can't make you drink it. [quote]Now either let this go or get muted.[/quote] I wasn't planning on responding after this, but don't let that stop you.

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  • I find rightfighters so tiresome. Get lost. Muted.

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  • shes just not into you man

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  • Missed the point completely…..

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  • That was the most boring and simultaneously dramatic thread ive ever read in my entire life. I dont know if I want this time back, or not.

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