No... to your last question. Clovis is a businessman... how do you think he got those test subjects? Mara is not who you think she is. Do not trust the Queen of Lies, do not trust the Sovs. Let me expand a little bit... this was fodder 1.0 - this was Joylan...I think, my theory... he was one of the fruits of the research program.... Mara wanted super soldiers... she wanted a compartmentalized and expendable black ops force to subsidize and preserve her rule. She worked with Clovis to do so... she gave those Awoken to him, her own people... she knew what she was doing. Just like she knew Uldren was collaborating with Calus, torturing Eliksni... that created the Scorn. That was fodder 2.0. At her direction... btw. We were/are fodder 3.0. Speaking to Mara's motivations. Anywho... Joylan, is a super soldier black ops awoken assassin, and the fruits of that program... somewhere in between... Uldren planning his death and his revival, Joylan figured out what it took for him to have his abilities. Suffice to say... Joylan, who was Uldren's best friend, are no longer on good terms. I want Joylan to kill Uldren so bad... it shouldn't be Cayde. It should be Petra, Joylan... or Zavala 😉. Unfortunately, I think Uldren is going to kill Petra... that's when Joylan arrives. It's going to get pretty dark.