Nope. Not buying it. There is no way the drop rates for Legend is anything higher than 5%. This guy is either just super lucky, or his presentation is just straight up propaganda.

Then there's nothing more to be said. If youre presented evidence and can't provide anything other than "nah this is fake, I can't be wrong" then you're hopeless

I'm just refusing to accept 25% based off numbers a guy is claiming [i]without[/i] evidence actually.

He also states he ran 30 with no drops. 25% is the drop rate, but there is still RNG. 30 games no drops literally devalues 25% drop rate.

That's not how that worksl Or at least I'm pretty sure that's not how that works

[quote]That's not how that worksl Or at least I'm pretty sure that's not how that works[/quote] That's exactly how it works. As he put it, you are rolling a 4 sided dice (since drop rate is 25%), but this system is 2 layered. Drop rate decides how many of the faces of the dice will have the reward but you still gotta roll the dice (RNG). If the drop rate was 10%, then you'd be rolling 10 sided dice with only 1 side actually having the reward. You can play 10 games, doesn't mean you gonna have 1 reward out out it. His efforts are incredible but at the same time, are theoretical. Since, most players wouldn't run lost sectors that many times. If anyone got 1 exotic out of 30 runs, they'd be in the forum screaming their lungs out instead of running lost sectors again. Therefore, realistically, you can't get 25% actual drop rate. Because if he stopped his experiment at that point, then would it be still 25% or lesser? This is one of the reasons Bungie doesn't display percentages since its part of a 2 layered system and doesn't directly mean its 25% from your 4th run and onwards.

But if you got it in 1 run, would that mean drop rate is 100%?

[quote]But if you got it in 1 run, would that mean drop rate is 100%?[/quote] That also doesn't mean that and that's my point. That why I said the experiment in the link you provided is theoretical. Depending on at which point you stop running lost sectors, the percentage can vary.

Yeah but it's enough runs to get a decent idea. I'm sure in the code it's not an exact 25.00%, one out of four guaranteed. I feel like we're just getting lost in the weeds here. Colloquially, it's 25%. We all know that doesn't mean it's guaranteed 1 out of every 4 times. In the same way if you flip a coin and get heads doesn't mean the next flip is guaranteed tails. But the larger the number of flips, the closer you'll probably be to the theoretical percentage. Yeah its not impossible to run 5000 lost sectors and never get an exotic. But that's not something very many will experience over time. On average, for most people will probably sit around 25%

Mate, you are saying I know its an apple. But I'm gonna call it an orange. Then call it an orange... I explained to you how it is not, and the system is 2 layered. You are only talking about 1 layer and ignoring the other because it makes your argument look bad. But you do you

Yeah because Its silly to say [quote] Depending on at which point you stop running lost sectors, the percentage can vary. [/quote] As it effectively disqualifies any data set that isn't a recording of every instance of rng. It's like saying flipping a coin isn't 50/50 because if you stop at 1 trillion flips you don't know what the next trillion will be Or how you acknowledged running it once and getting it, even though that'd mean a 100% drop rate doesn't inflate the 25% number

mate you see, if someone wants to disagree for the sake of it. They will do so. They guy ran 1600 lost sectors, a normal player would not bother if they got 1 or no exotic after 20 tries. You are telling me it is 25% while only a few persons experience indicates that while there are a lot more indicates otherwise. Did you even read the link you sent and checked the other fella who did it said it was 33% but if you looked at which lost sector gave him what, some of them gave 1 or 2 within 15-20 tries. Please go ahead and explain if someone does not run 100s of lost sectors and still can have 25% drop rate? because evidence says otherwise. You can scream it is 25% but if that doesnt apply in practice hen it is just a theory of what it should be, not what it is it doesnt disqualify it, but it needs to be understood that 25 percent can be 5% for some depending on their luck. For those players,drop rate is not, EVIDENTLY, 25%. You are saying that doesnt matter, what matter is the result of running lost sectors hunderds or thousand times to prove it is 25%. if I run it, 25 times do you wanna bet on the drop rate ving 25% or even there abouts?

[quote] You are telling me it is 25% while only a few persons experience indicates that while there are a lot more indicates otherwise [/quote] Who are these "a lot more" people? Is it the ones who complain? Obviously, that'll be more you're not gonna get a ton of people spamming the forums with "hey I keep getting an exotic about every 4 runs, bungie wtf" [quote] Did you even read the link you sent and checked the other fella who did it said it was 33% [/quote] Did you? 33% was for the harder difficulty, unless I read it incorrectly. [quote] Please go ahead and explain if someone does not run 100s of lost sectors and still can have 25% drop rate? because evidence says otherwise. [/quote] What evidence? People complaining on the forums? See previous point. [quote] You can scream it is 25% but if that doesnt apply in practice hen it is just a theory of what it should be, not what it is it doesnt disqualify it, but it needs to be understood that 25 percent can be 5% for some depending on their luck. For those players,drop rate is not, EVIDENTLY, 25% [/quote] Yeah no -blam!- lol But that should get evened out by all the people who get it on their 1st and 2nd try. You keep trying to bring up outliers but that's not what reality is. [quote] if I run it, 25 times do you wanna bet on the drop rate ving 25% or even there abouts? [/quote] Yes