[quote]The bow is fine, its no different than other bows in the game. The only issue from monarque comes from the poison damage, it lingers too long and is the highest dps on pvp dealing bow because of its poison.[/quote] like i mean thats the point.. its a problem. all bows are easy to hit with. but it is a bow that can leave you 1 shot and leave teammate sone shot..an infinite amount of times. there should be an ammo cap in pvp

if your answer to a le monarque laning you is to continue to challenge that lane, i will pray for your soul. even if you survive the most likely teamshot from anything that will leave you insta dead, say you miss your two shots, that lemon cant keep thwipping arrows at you alllllll day.

Exactly! Snipers are a hard counter to basically all bows in the game. I for example always switch off my bow the second I start facing snipers because I know I’m not gonna win that.

One shot takes your health down but it doesn’t outright kill you. You can counter with snipers, linear fusions or shotguns like chaperone if you manage to close the gap. Side arms, smg’s and even some hand cannons with high caliber rounds can counter le monarque.

Last word gets countered by chaperone, fusions, literally any ranged weapon, side arms or even smg’s. Last word is insanely easy to use on console but its not broken lol. Why am I the only one that actually knows how to counter these weapons? Maybe if you all stopped whining and actually learned how to make distance and learn a couple of counters you guys wouldn’t be sitting here complaining about these weapons. Everything in destiny has a counter, some are much harder to counter than others but its still doable. The thing about you guys is you all expect other players to play your way so instead of learning how to counter stuff and learn how to outplay, you guys shut down and either rage or bend over and take the L. I personally cant live that way, I always look for counters and I find it fun when I finally find the perfect counter because Ill never ever get decimated by some random player’s weird build strategy. I can literally use any weapon to their maximum potential and I know how to counter majority of player BS in this game. Of course there will always be some insanely good player that I don’t have enough time to figure out a counter but thats fine because I start to come up with ways to counter it for the next player I see running that same build. Anyways I’m off topic, I think lorenz is insanely easy to use and yes it has BS headshots that land but its not the end of the world. I use snipers or keep very far away using scouts to counter lorenz. The lorenz tends to have very small aim assist and will not even hit targets that are very far away, thats why its just so good at close to medium range. Monarque is not as busted as many players make it sound but Im not blind, I obviously see how players get frustrated but again, bows easily get countered by snipers and linear fusions. Main ingredient is probably the only weapon so far I have a very hard time learning to counter due to its insane range and charge time. Chaperone seems to be the only decent counter I’ve developed so far. Just because something is easy and strong doesn’t immediately make it broken, you can overcome any player if you have the right mindset. Anyways good luck to you! Im sure bungie is gonna nerf lorenz and monarque either way because the negatives overcome the positive on these forums. Once they get nerfed, players will just look for the next big thing.