Untouched?
It been nerfed 10x.
People use it because it is the only hunter ability that can kill someone.
And even then...it can only kill bad players.
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I am a very good player and still die to shatter dive, its no secret the ability is busted.
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Then you arent as good as you think. I am average and never died to it. Because its easy to see coming.
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No just no.
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That doesnt even make sense.
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Edited by zG Maximus: 9/22/2021 1:58:45 PMKilled plenty of “good” players with it and I’m killed by it too but I’m not a bad player... top streamers that use it also call it scummy but say they’ll use it till it’s nerfed. Plus, they nerfed the damage radius of the shatter but gave it an increased crystal/freeze radius with the new aspect 😑
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Sure...but they also gave warlocks a freeze melee..which is more broken since you can use monte carlo for the easiest kills ever.
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Honestly any freezing is bad for pvp IMO but the warlock melee is a tiny ball that is short range and warlocks have no shatter ability, so you have to pull out a weapon to finish them off. Doesn’t really compare to a 3 meter wide grenade that can be tossed dozens of meters and quickly shatterdived
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In reality it cant be tossed dozens of meters. Only in a 10 meter radius ...because freeze lasts 1 second. Also ..warlock tiny ball has a 20 meter range. That is further than a shatterdive can reach. Only bad players get killed by shatterdived. I havent been killed by it ever.
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Never been killed by it 🤣 riiiiiiiight. Agree to disagree 😎🍻
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You'd be wrong then. I play at range. I am not dumb enough to get within shotgun distance. I have litterally never been killed by a shatterdive.
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Oh no, your just right... nobody good should ever get close to an enemy. Close range is where all the “bad players” play at and only good players play at range... 🤦♂️
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Smart players play at range when you know the enemy subclass counters close range.
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Idk why I argue with you dude... Let’s just paint a broad brush over the entire community and say that if you get shatterdived, you’re a bad player... You’re apparently the ultimate gamer who built an entire play style around never getting shatterdived and too above us commoners to understand why anyone who gets shatterdived could take issue with it. Done with that
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Edited by Reptilliano: 9/24/2021 11:23:24 AMLet G0lden Hunt3r He has no clue what he's talking about. 🤣🤣
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I mean..if you get killed by shatterdive...you would get killed 2x as easy by a SC or HHSN. So i dont know why everyone always complains about shatterdive... Might be because there has been a huge bias agains hunters from the community since base D1. Litterally everytime hunters get access to something titans and warlocks already have...everyone complains. It happens EVERY SINGLE SEASON AND EVERY SINGLE WEEK. We havent had 1 week in D2 without warlocks and titand asking for nerfs.
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Thinks shoulder charge is twice as easy to get killed by than shatterdive...... 🤣🤣🤣
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I never said that. You just made that up. I said it is 2x as easy to hit with a SC compared to shatterdive . Which is a fact. Because shatterdive has the same AOE as a SC homing radius (3 meters) but SC can hit flying targets as well as targets on the ground. Meanwhile shatterdive is limited to grounded targets because the crystals cant form midair.
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SC is worse than just using a shotgun dude... have to sprint to charge it, makes a very audible sound telling you it’s coming, whiffs ALL THE TIME, and easily shut down by shotguns. SD > Shotgun > SC Ever wonder why SC and HHSN aren’t used often while glacier/shatterdive is? Especially in a playlist that brings out the cheesiest tactics like trials? Or why these posts are always significantly upvoted rather than downvoted? Or why good payers that use glacier/shatterdive also say it’s op? Maybe your just too stubborn to think about that.
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SC doesnt make a sound though. And if you get shotgunned out of SC you are just bad. You have access to a 100 health overshield while using SC. And the reason why those are upvoted so much is because titans + warlocks = the majority of the playerbase. Hunter = 44% of the players. That leaves 66% of other classes. And we all know that warlocks and titans are known for nerfing 90% of the game. That is why all the memes about that exist. And also...even if GLACIER GRENADE gets nerfed more...you people will still complain. Because bungie already said that all crystals exploding is meant to kill in PVP. Meaning it will never get nerfed to beyond that point.
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Everyone is just bad if they do the opposite of what you say is good according to you. You need to pop that ballooned head of yours dude. You are judging way too much with a broad brush. Your no pro tier player but your acting like you have the epitome of game sense and all of your points are validated through it. Stop calling people bad because they die to things in the most unbalanced and chaotic sandbox FPS game out right now. Fkn hopeless
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😂😂😂 Its more balanced than most games . And i base everything around proven facts that streamers and youtubers have proven. And i never thought of myself as a good player ..but thanks for the compliment.
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Proven facts...? dude... you will literally pull anything out of your a** to prove your point won’t you? You think that memes prove opinion statistics...🤣 Plenty of streamers and youtubers say shatterdiving glacier grenades is too strong also. So there goes that line of reasoning... If majorities are the only reason SD is talked about so much even though you say HHSN and SC are better, why aren’t Titans and hunters hanging up and mass complaining about HHSN or warlocks and hunters mass complaining about SC? Your logic is really off
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Because whenever hunters say anything (even proven facts)...they get silenced by the majority. Like you are doing right now. And i dont make stuff up...i only state proven facts.
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You are 100% not giving “proven facts”. That’s just laughable that you think that. Your also not a hunter... your just another gamer and many of us play all three classes. Your just biased towards hunters as you’ve displayed. And no one is silencing you. You just don’t have anything of value to add to the conversation other than “just back up” or “your just bad” or shifting the problem to other abilities. That GET GOOD mentality always gets pushed aside. Go make a post about shoulder charge and handheld being stronger that glacier/shatterdive and see if you even get 10 upvotes for that. Highly doubt it