It could be useful in harder content where things are super tanky and a warmind cell spawning afterwards would be beneficial due to the bonuses they can provide. Or like...since it's a long range weapon, you can use it for long range add clear. Either way you look at it, there's no harm in giving it something like warmind cells, because it's just extra utility. And them spawning warmind cells wouldn't be a legitimate reason to not buff it in SOME way.

[quote]It could be useful in harder content where things are super tanky and a warmind cell spawning afterwards would be beneficial due to the bonuses they can provide. Or like...since it's a long range weapon, you can use it for long range add clear. Either way you look at it, there's no harm in giving it something like warmind cells, because it's just extra utility. And them spawning warmind cells wouldn't be a legitimate reason to not buff it in SOME way.[/quote] You’re right. There’s no harm in giving it to sleeper. That, I’ll agree to. But, giving it warmind cells will not make people use it any differently. It uses heavy ammo, it is a slow charge time, has a small magazine, and a slow reload. On the other hand, you got shotguns, snipers, slug shotgun, even normal fusion rifles that are more optimal in almost every other scenario. Snipers have no charge time and do more damage than linears. Think Izanagi’s Burden and Cloudstrike. Shotgun have a faster fire rate plus perks like swashbuckler and one two punch. Even an exotic one like Fourth Horseman paired with Sealed Ahamkara’s Grasp or Mask of Bakris is insane. Slug shotguns have range compared to normal shotguns, and are very meta. Chaperone is very good and so is that arc one from season of arrivals paired with Bakris or Divinity. There’s just soooooooooooo many better options that are more optimal. Until linears get a buff, using sleeper is kinda a setback. There’s nothing really making it the king of DPS or even remotely close to it especially since it gets outclassed by special weapons.

Giving it some utility certainly helps with the problem linear fusions have. Being a crap single target only weapon is part of the reason why nobody uses them. Ehroar did a video showing that linear fusions don't...suck, but even with higher damage they still don't do anything close to make them as good as other heavies. Would rather use a rocket that blows away both bosses and ads over garbage ass sleeper or linear fusions. Shit, just make enemies explode when they die to linear fusions or something.

[quote]Giving it some utility certainly helps with the problem linear fusions have. Being a crap single target only weapon is part of the reason why nobody uses them. Ehroar did a video showing that linear fusions don't...suck, but even with higher damage they still don't do anything close to make them as good as other heavies. Would rather use a rocket that blows away both bosses and ads over garbage ass sleeper or linear fusions. Shit, just make enemies explode when they die to linear fusions or something.[/quote] That’s why linears with the exception of sleeper should be special weapons. Buff sleepers damage through the roof and move the others to the energy slot. As for the exploding part, that would just be chain reaction or dragonfly I think.

Give em ricochet shots where they bounce to up to 2 additional targets 🤣

Polaris is Braytech, not Warmind Tech. Sleeper is Warmind Tech. So tell me why the Warmind weapon shouldn't generate Warmind cells? Pretty stupid dude.

[quote]Polaris is Braytech, not Warmind Tech. Sleeper is Warmind Tech. So tell me why the Warmind weapon shouldn't generate Warmind cells? Pretty stupid dude.[/quote] Seraph weapons can generate them. Those aren’t warmind tech. pReTtY sTuPiD dUdE. Sleeper is not an ad clear weapon. It is a DPS weapon. If you’re using it for ad clear, not only is it inefficient in terms of time and ammo, but it’s just outright stupid. So many better options even against yellow bars, mini bosses, and champions. Shotguns, fusions, snipers, slug shotguns are all better AND they use special ammo.

Seraph weapons quite literally have Warmind Tech. The Seraphs were Rasputins own personal soldiers that HE made and HE equipped. Polaris is ECLUSIVELY Braytech. Pretty stupid huh dude? You dont know a damn thing, stop acting like you do. Weapon purpose doesn't matter, thats not the point. ALL Warmind weapons NO MATERR WHAT should have Cell capabilities because there has been no reason shown lore wise for them not to and it would further expand the usage of them.

[quote]Seraph weapons quite literally have Warmind Tech. The Seraphs were Rasputins own personal soldiers that HE made and HE equipped. Polaris is ECLUSIVELY Braytech. Pretty stupid huh dude? You dont know a damn thing, stop acting like you do. Weapon purpose doesn't matter, thats not the point. ALL Warmind weapons NO MATERR WHAT should have Cell capabilities because there has been no reason shown lore wise for them not to and it would further expand the usage of them.[/quote] Stop acting like I know everything? Lmao I never said I did, but at least I know Ana Bray literally created Rasputin dipshit. Hence, the reason Polaris Lance should have it. Putting warmind cells on sleeper and using it for ad clear is the equivalent of using thorn because it’s a hand cannon and not because it poisons.

You outright implied it "Seraph weapons can generate them. Those aren’t warmind tech. pReTtY sTuPiD dUdE." If Polaris gets it then you have to give it to all Crypt gear. Do you see where this is going? Only things that come from RASPUTIN HIMSELF, not anyone associated, just HIM should have it. The cells are very likely HIS design. Not Ana's or anybody else. There's been and will continue to be a very very clear distinction between Warmind Tech and Braytech. And by the way, Polaris was originally being made by Elsie so Ana just finished what Elsie had started. Elsie has very little to absolutely nothing to do with Rasputin. If you want to give another weapon thats ad clear cell capabilities, give it to Outbreak. SIVA may have been made by Willa Bray, but Rasputin had direct authority over SIVA and was one of his tools. The weapon's frame is of Warmind Tech itself. So it'd make sense. Also again, its not about functionality. And anyways how could it hurt for Sleeper to do this, huh? Why are you so against a buff? Lets say you're doing a master ordeal and you want to do a cell build, need a long range weapon, and high burst damage and that oh anti barrier linear fusion is up. Sleeper. Champions spawn with a lot of ads typically. You kill the champion, the rounds that split of kill some ads, and a cell pops out and there's still a good 15-20 ads left. BOOM they're all dead or suppressed without having to ignore the champion because Sleeper could generate cells. If not that, apply it to almost any beefy majors or mini bosses around the game. Its a total win and I dont get why you're so opposed to increased functionality and general utility. Starting to just look like a troll dude.

[quote]You outright implied it "Seraph weapons can generate them. Those aren’t warmind tech. pReTtY sTuPiD dUdE." If Polaris gets it then you have to give it to all Crypt gear. Do you see where this is going? Only things that come from RASPUTIN HIMSELF, not anyone associated, just HIM should have it. The cells are very likely HIS design. Not Ana's or anybody else. There's been and will continue to be a very very clear distinction between Warmind Tech and Braytech. And by the way, Polaris was originally being made by Elsie so Ana just finished what Elsie had started. Elsie has very little to absolutely nothing to do with Rasputin. If you want to give another weapon thats ad clear cell capabilities, give it to Outbreak. SIVA may have been made by Willa Bray, but Rasputin had direct authority over SIVA and was one of his tools. The weapon's frame is of Warmind Tech itself. So it'd make sense. Also again, its not about functionality. And anyways how could it hurt for Sleeper to do this, huh? Why are you so against a buff? Lets say you're doing a master ordeal and you want to do a cell build, need a long range weapon, and high burst damage and that oh anti barrier linear fusion is up. Sleeper. Champions spawn with a lot of ads typically. You kill the champion, the rounds that split of kill some ads, and a cell pops out and there's still a good 15-20 ads left. BOOM they're all dead or suppressed without having to ignore the champion because Sleeper could generate cells. If not that, apply it to almost any beefy majors or mini bosses around the game. Its a total win and I dont get why you're so opposed to increased functionality and general utility. Starting to just look like a troll dude.[/quote] Good lord I don’t know whether you’re just dumb or stupid. I’ll let you decide. Nowhere in there did I ever say it would hurt giving sleeper warmind cells. I said no one would use it differently and there are waaaaaay more superior options. Ana Bray created Rasputin. No other Bray did. That’s why Polaris should have it. Outbreak shouldn’t have it because Rasputin controlled SIVA. He did not create it. No Time To Explain shouldn’t have it either. It’s made by a Bray, but not Rasputin or Ana. If you’re taking Sleeper into a high tier activity, especially in its marshmallow state, you’re putting yourself at a disadvantage. On top of that, sleeper’s perk where it bounces and kills thing hardly ever works. If it’s reworked with some tracking capability, then yeah this might be a great idea. No one would use this weapon any differently if it had warmind cells built in. That’s why it’s in the heavy slot. It’s a DPS weapon that currently sucks. If you’re using it for ad clear, you’re just using it wrong and being inefficient and in high level content, you need to be efficient in terms of ammo and time.

LOL You not only just rehashed what I said but you're reaching for stuff nobody was even talking about, trying to prove something as true that I already know and stated as true out a very clearly defensive stance, and you're going full circle instead of progressing. "No one would use this weapon any differently if it had warmind cells built in." People DEFINITELY would and you're a fool if you think otherwise. This community always finds ways to make things fit into good builds, especially if you're talking warmind cells. Just because it isn't the most practical, doesn't mean it'd be bad lol. Oh and hard to believe but guess what, some people and even most activities, aren't all about being overly efficient and uber sweaty. So include the fun factor too. This debate is over lmfao Learn how to have a proper debate then come back to me.

No reason why it shouldn’t have it.

[quote]No reason why it shouldn’t have it.[/quote] What purpose would it serve? When are you ever clearing ads with this thing? Sleeper is a DPS weapon. If doing x amount of damage triggered warmind cells, then maybe it’d make sense. But this weapon isn’t a machine gun or an smg or an auto rifle. It’s DPS. Not as clear.

Yellow bars? Mini bosses? They all spawn amongst adds, and brrting them down with sleeper, spawning a cell, then detonating it would deal with them.

[quote]Yellow bars? Mini bosses? They all spawn amongst adds, and brrting them down with sleeper, spawning a cell, then detonating it would deal with them.[/quote] If you’re using sleeper for a yellow bar, I’d suggest using a different loadout that doesn’t involve a nerf gun or marshmallows. And typically, you burn through red bars before you kill a mini boss or champion hence making the warmind cell useless.

What’s with the “holier than thou” attitude regarding how I use guns? I can run ammo finders, scavengers, never run out of ammo even when I’m wasting it all. Heavy isn’t so precious that you have to save it completely for boss dps. Cells added to sleeper makes sense and blatantly adds to its versatility, and just because you don’t see the multiple uses of a gun shouldn’t limit it for those who see more potential. FURTHERMORE- Cells provide added bonuses, including buffs and debuffs. Why shouldn’t more weapons spawn them? Your argument really just doesn’t have a leg to stand on.