[quote]You're talking about other classes being op but titans aren't. That doesn't make any sense. Titans have antaeus, no explanation needed. They have one eyed mask. It used to be broken. Right now its extremely good. Titans can actually do something in midair. Use Lion Ramparts, a sword, and high lift. You sound like a titan main so you should know what im talking about. Watch Esoterickk's newest video on titans being able to become invincible. Once you do, you'll realize what I mean when I say titans are broken. Also I'd like to point out that warlocks can't sword skate anymore. Why would titans be able to? If Bungie releases twilight garrison or something close to that, a large portion of the community will be pissed off at them for taking sword skating away from warlocks and then giving titans twilight garrison. I'd also like to point out something very important in the lore. Titans are the immovable walls of the Last City. IMMOVABLE. You guys are meant to be slow. Then theres hunters who are meant to be fast but warlocks are actually faster.[/quote] Err, I'm not really here to take sides, but two(potentially four) of your points are complete bs and/or are extremly improbable, if not impossible, to make use of in an actual PvP match, let alone Trials, which the OP explicitly mentioned. Sword "flying"(not skating) with Lion Rampants + a Sword has little to no practicality in PvP, because you not only need to sacrifice your Exotic armor and speed by using High Lift, you also need Heavy ammo and the worst Heavy ammo option unless you're using it to peek corners like "skilled" or "tactical" players. And the "godmode" glitch that Esoterickk covered is in a similar situation, since again, you need to sacrifice your Exotic armor and speed, have Heavy ammo, and have your Super, but even with all of that, you'd need to find a point high enough on a map to activate the glitch(with most likely inconsistent timing). I'm pretty sure unless you're already going to a glitch spot/unintended area, or are on Vostok's B flag area(with the two towers) where you can easily get picked off, there's no possible area on any PvP map to pull it off. And even if you do, a Suppression effect or a shutdown Super like Thundercrash or surpisingly Tether will probably make quick work of that. Since unless you're fragging out, if you've got your Super, someone else is probably close too, if they don't have one already. So you ultimately only brought up two solid talking points, those being OEM(especially in its previous state) and Antaeus Wards. Third and fourth potential points: [spoiler]Also, what does Warlock Worldline/sword/relic skating have to do with Titans? I really fail to grasp why that was even worth mentioning when Titan skating hasn't existed for over a year in this sequel. Both were removed(though one was only possible on PC) because they allowed egregious levels of unintended player movement speeds, and I suspect the current Dawnblade Icarus Dash boost glitch may be removed as well for the same reason. They probably will get rid of sword flying at some point, but it's only real use is bypassing certain PvE areas, and not speeding up the game to any unmatchable levels. Garrison wouldn't make skating possible, even with a sword, because the Titan jump works much differently compared to the last game. I don't even necessarily want it btw, but that argument against it falls flat. The fourth point doesn't need much to be said about it, but using the lore of all things to base an argument about what actually plays out holds no water at all. You have to really be grasping at straws to try to even mention that.[/spoiler]

1) That looks more like lag than a problem with tether itself. And a suppressor grenade would’ve probably had the same effect in that situation. Just try throwing a suppressor at a flying top tree warlock or a dancing arcstrider in open space and see how useful they are. 2) I think it’s 3m and considering you’re running in a straight line previous to it that’s not crazy. And since the nerf the hit registration is so bad you can go through the hit box of the other player and the other player and can ohk punch you in the spine... you lose the ability and die at the same time. 3) Hunters do the same thing. The lock on distance for melee is fairly inconsistent but I’ve never seen it happen farther than about 2m or so. And the original comment said ‘across the map’. And please don’t just make stuff up... ‘can be considered a slam?’ Top tree hammer/arc and bottom tree sentinel have shoulder charge melee abilities so if we are going to discuss something let’s keep it specific. 4) I’ve got about 2200 hours in D2. After Felwinter was done, I’m doing a few other things until next season launches. I’ll say I saw more Titans during guardian games but that’s about it. I see mostly hunters in crucible, warlocks in strikes and titans in tower when I’m decrypting prime engrams. I haven’t looked at player numbers lately on any stat tracking website. 6) In my original reply, I was referencing the original commenter bringing that opinion up out of nowhere. Hunters weren’t even mentioned originally. And your comment makes you sound like a ‘whiney Hunter main’... see? I can say that too but it doesn’t add to the discussion. It just trying to divide people up into their tribes/camps or whatever you want to call them. My personal opinion as a Titan main is that hunters overall are in a good place other than a) dodge cooldown being too short with max mobility (and powerful friends mod breaking that stat balance) b) spectral blades and arcsteider supers lasting too long (I would also say roaming supers in general last too long but these too are the most egregious)

Thats cuz most people don't know how OP warlocks are when you know how to play them

Haha. Twilight looked like a washing machine lol. Most hideous blue too. My days. But function did it.