God forbid you have fun on a videogame

The wordline exploit is not what made the game fun, in fact now i think consoles are a little closer to the unfair speedrun and worlds first communities

for alot of people who speedrun, yes, it is what made the game fun. it added replayability to almost every activity which is good for the game. consoles are still gonna be worse for WR speedruns and WF raid attempts have not been affected at all. no one serious used worldline for WF raids. there are plenty of cases where the developers of a game turned a bug into a feature for because the player base liked it.

Bungie has a right to fix whatever bugs they find in the game, so what if they patch a un-intended thing, they can do that and they have done that plenty of times in the past, remember titan skating? So what if they fix something unintended stop whining about it, its not your game its bungies.

except they screwed over a ton of dedicated players who put in thousands of hours practicing by removing something that only affected the very top players. hell, they never even came out directly and said that they were nerfing it. dmg only eluded to it by saying that people will need new ways to move fast *WHEN* he was asked. titan skating affected pvp very negatively as well, where as swordskating was a gimic. they aren't comparable. no, i was talking about how respawn entertainment kept slide hopping, a fun mechanic that added depth to the game rather than removing it. just as slide hopping and its movement makes titanfall 2 more fun and unique, worldline and sword skating made destiny's movement fun EDIT: it made destiny's movement more fun and unique. the speedrunning community isn't as small nor as exclusive to pc as you think either. there are plenty of people who ran on console (albiet they use api times and are not as optimised.) whats the point of speedrunning anymore if you can't beat a previously established time?you can still speedrun yeah but its not nearly as fun, and the skill gap is far more compressed. the nerf hurts the weapon itself as there is pretty much no reason to use it now. it lost its only purpose. it would have been not nearly as bad if they removed sword skating but kept worldline skating but instead they completely neutered the weapon.

Ill be honest, I dont care everything you said would be important if this was your game, but it simply isnt, i dont know why you keep arguing understand this ITS THEIR GAME AND THEY CAN DECIDE WHAT TO DO WITH IT if they want to fix a unintended feature they can if they want, if something is doing something it isn’t designed for then it can be fixed. The speedruning community has tons if sections im not stupid there isnt only 1 set time for all activities, just as there were exploit sections that exploit parts of the maps that can be glitched through to prgress faster there are speedruns that actually do everything legit. There was a set time fir when wordline was used and now their will be a section were new times can be made by not using it, its not the end of speedruning. Wordline still wasn’t used as often as you think its a sword and is therefore useless in PvP since the only good PvP sword is black talon, but wordline can be useful in PvE for clearing out groups of weaker ads (which is the point of some power weapons) its temporal sprint does a Circular attacks that kills everything in a 360 degree circle. I dont like defending bungie but when players feel entitled they need to be shutdown and understand this isnt their game to decide what should be in it, its the developers, although they may have bad ideas at time (like how trials isn’t protected from cheaters well) they have the right ti fix unintended issues, as well the devs did say they were going to patch the wordline bug (its a bug since it was never supposed to do that and it was exploited so it soon became a exploit) dont act like they never said it

when did they directly say that they were gonna patch it?

https://www.bungie.net/en/News/Article/48838 [quote]Glide can no longer be activated during sword attacks or other full body melee attacks.[/quote] What did you think it meant? I guess you didnt read the patch notes

i meant before the day of the update. a massive change like that should have been mentioned before the very day of the update. i agree that this game belongs to bungie and they have the right to do with it as they please, but i also believe that people who play the game, especially players who have poured alot of time and effort into the game have the right to speak up about changes that they do not like, even more so if those changes nullify the effort they poured in, eg: worldline being nerfed, not forgotten being nerfed and becoming easier to get and izanagi being nerfed, which removed a very skillful meta.

Izanagi and Wordline are not difficult to aquire at all, especially wordline, its not even a quest its a challenge. NF wasnt nerfed it was its RPM type, wordline was not this massive part of the game, it was barely used for any activity, and if the players had a say in everything (which as ive told you before speedruns are not a large community in D2) what do you think the meta would be right now? It would be insanely broken, with weapons being pure laser beams, because every-time a weapon was nerfed because it was OP it was wanted to be reverted (im talking PvP not PvE) and everytime there was a nerf there was a buff to another weapon putting it in the meta, if what you want would happen then eventually the game would reach a point were TTK would have to keep being decreased.

you aren't reading what im saying.

You are obviously talking about Bethesda since they are known for that, do you really think Bungie should be similar to Bethesda? As well the speedrun community isnt as big as you think, it is only on PC and has a certain % of players in it, there may be reddits and stuff for it but consider how many active users there are. Wordline does not add any reason to replay a activity, Speedruning itself causes that (so dont act as if you still cant speedrun). This wordline nerf hurts no-one you can say it hurt speedruns but you can still do them.