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originally posted in: NERF ERENTIL AND BACKUP PLAN
1/16/2020 1:50:49 AM
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[quote]I really hope Bungie, that you pay attention to this post. Erentil is a weapon that has large usage in survival on console. It needs a range nerf and the perk "Backup plan" to be removed from the weapon. A fusion rifle SHOULD NOT be able to kill you at Pulse rifle range. And the perk , "Backup Plan" should not exist on such a weapon. Hand cannons got a nerf because they could three tap at such range, but nothing was ever done to fusion rifles. A "God Roll" Erentil is an easy way to win, especially with backup plan and TAKES NO SKILL to use. You are losing a considerably large player base because of this and I hope you take into consideration to look into this and give it the tweaking it deserves.[/quote] There is no data to support a nerf of Erentil or other fusion rifles. It’s does not have a large usage in survival. It has 1% usage in survival. That includes PC which has the highest % of active players playing the game post new light. Even if you look at console only, which you shouldn’t because you should look at all platforms when considering balance changes that effect all platforms, it is not the most used special weapon OR energy weapon. The fact is it’s the 5th most used energy weapon and the 5th most used special weapon in survival. The back up plan perk isn’t even a good perk for dedicated fusion rifle users. It’s better to control your charge rate yourself and get the consistency of using other perks in that slot. The gun is balanced and serves a role in countering the meta loadout of shotgun + handcannon. Nerfing a viable gun out of viability would just make the META more oppressive, the game less varied, and the game less fun. The gun doesn’t map anyone in actual crucible matches. The majority of its kills come from <20m against players who push it out of cover then complain they got mapped. If you watch gameplay footage of players using the gun for high kill games you see that they get most of those kills at <20m against running at them in the open, or standing still out of cover. You can adapt to perform well against fusions by not pushing fusion users out of cover, not stand in the middle of lanes spamming your primary at them, and not peek corners when you hear the very loud audio queue of a fusion charging. Do that and you won’t have anything to complain about anymore. No need to keep spreading the dead memes about this gun, do what good players do and adapt when you actually run across one in your games. There is no need to try and be over dramatic and try and claim the game is losing players because of a gun that isn’t overpowered and doesn’t need a nerf. If you have data to present that suggests it’s overpowered go ahead, but there isn’t any.
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  • I'm just gonna go ahead and disagree with your comment. And to say <20m is ridiculous. I've been in a match with a clanmate of mine who has a god roll erentil and it's zapped me at 73m away. You can even watch this video and see for yourself an erentil killing another at 40m away. So there's your "Data".

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  • [u]What those videos claim:[/u] "Omg I can consistently map people with Erentil" [u]What those videos don't explain:[/u] A specific perk combination (which removes the option to use Back Up Plan or Rangefinder) + Enemy standing still + Good RNG on the Fusion shot (which is why the guy in your video sounded surprised due to trying it multiple times before succeeding) ... are all the requirements needed to pull off a kill that a Sniper would get with much more ease. If such an ability ("consistently" killing from 40m + away) were actually consistent, Snipers would be extinct and everyone would be using Erentil instead... when the truth is it only happens rarely in a controlled environment and extremely rarely in an actual game. It's not a surprise why statistically, noobs keep dropping their Erentils in favor of Snipers or Shotguns. They watch these videos and farm for their "Perfect-Sniping Erentil" (advertised by streamers) and then realize it's not practical to crouch + charge for 0.86s from 40+ m away in an actual game that is overpopulated with snipers that can secure such kills much easier.

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  • Calling bs on the 70+ shot. Btw, nice private match footage.

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  • [quote]I'm just gonna go ahead and disagree with your comment. And to say <20m is ridiculous. I've been in a match with a clanmate of mine who has a god roll erentil and it's zapped me at 73m away. You can even watch this video and see for yourself an erentil killing another at 40m away. So there's your "Data".[/quote] 🤣 show me some gameplay footage of that happening in an actual crucible match. That’s not data from actual games happening in the crucible. That is one player stand completely still so another player can kill them, no movement, no cover, no firing back, no teammates. If that’s how you’re playing in the crucible then any gun will kill you at that range. No need to ask Bungie for nerfs to all guns so you can stand completely still in the middle of the mad and not shoot anyone.

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