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4/10/2019 6:45:37 PM
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Sentry was never meant to be a counter to an invader, just a protector. All the sentry is supposed to do is keep the pad clear, scout/destroy invaders,and if you have the final perk buff teammates resistance during primeval damage phase. To effectively be a sentry you have to have the mentality of protecting your team which to be honest no solo queue is going to do. I'm an invader and when I'm scoping out my prey the sentry is always the one that runs away and half the time the enemy collector gets me which is assbackwards. There are many weapon great for prime but the hard cold fact is the community as a whole is a large majority casual and pve purists which are terrible for a competitive mode like gambit or gambit prime. When I'm invading the enemy just runs away rather than 4 man rush me and to make matters worse the ones that hide are usually the ones with no motes at all.
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No, bungie has stated that a sentry protects the bank as main role and then counters invaders as their next big role
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Everything you said i litteraly stated minus the counter. Sentry does not counter invaders in their current state.
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Yeah they do. Mark an invader because anybody playing sentry should know invader spawn points and then sic your team on them
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Than tell everyone that keeps asking for invasion nerfs to sit down.
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The damage resistance buff during primeval phase does not make you immune from fire, thus rendering it completely useless. For the final perk, it is the biggest waste of a slot.
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Its not even resistance it is resilience which is extra health. It works like heart of the pack ehich give more resilience, recovery, and mobility. Its a stat buff but it doesn't really change how much dps you take.
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Exactly. People are trying to put stopping an invader on 1 person, and that's not how it works. That is a team job, the sentry just helps out a lot by marking the invader.
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Exactly. This is what makes a good team from a bad team.
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The only way gambit or gambit prime can be competitive is if we had set weapons for each role.
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You are entitled to believe that and i respect your opinion but disagree as well.
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Edited by Crimson724: 4/11/2019 6:20:38 AMIt’s the I can see you, you can’t see me that makes everyone run instead of mob the invader. Invaders can abuse this with a sniper ( was queen breaker or voices. It was bad.) and wipe a team without being spotted. I feel like this was designed around the idea of the entire team speaking to each other(. ...which never ever happens) since after death you get to see them and could alert the team. Voice chat just isn’t a thing in random teams. That’s why if you see three or more of the same clan tag everyone starts dropping out because the match is already over. Depending on Voice chat probably shouldn’t even be factored when designing a rated T game. Too many weirdos and trolls in the world and anyone talking to their team is using partychat anyway cause destinys voip is horrible.
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I can agree with this. As an invader i shouldn't be able to to see everyone and everything because it kills any stealth the other team may have. The only time an invader should see someone is if they have 15 or more. All I'm saying is i agree with the op that sentry does not counter invaders i may have went to an explanation many feel is unnecessary but i felt it was needed. The sentry needs a buff or rework to actually truely be a counter and not be the teams lazy foetracer.
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You know you just contradicted yourself in the first couple of sentences?
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Protection and counter are not the same good sir. Nothing can counter invader except teamplay and coordination. There is no specific class designed to punish invaders. There are guns like malfeasance and my personal favorite izanagi's burden but not class.
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Protecting against invaders is literally saying the same thing as countering invaders.
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No its not,its just their job that does not in anyway hinder the invader who was disadvantaged from the start. Its Its everyone's job to deal with invader not just his.
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OMFG have you ever even played Gambit before?
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Plenty but it still doesn't change the fact that sentry isn't and does not counter invaders. If it dealt more dmg to invader sure but the only thing it has is a tracker and thats trash Oem gives trackers,foetracer, and sanguine alchemy. Anybody can do his job and won't need any of the useless perks. I'm sure you get farmed alot so keep up with your logic.
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[quote]Plenty but it still doesn't change the fact that sentry isn't and does not counter invaders. [/quote] Like how Collector is the opposite of Reaper, Sentry is the opposite of Invader. And yes, Sentry is made as the counter to both Blockers and Invaders. [quote]If it dealt more dmg to invader sure but the only thing it has is a tracker and thats trash Oem gives trackers,foetracer, and sanguine alchemy. Anybody can do his job and won't need any of the useless perks. I'm sure you get farmed alot so keep up with your logic.[/quote] Someone’s gotta say it: you’re just a hypocritical idiot.
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Edited by Lord Araphel: 4/11/2019 1:55:46 AMAnd you are a troll that can't even troll. I stated its not a counter to an invader an why and in then your dumbass tried to be funny and blew a gasket not my fault you are a high functioning retaard.
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Says the wannabe troll himself
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You started with me trying to play me.
