In "Confession of Hope" Part One & Two - You can read about a child resurrected by a Ghost. It makes references to the dead child's "spark" which implies that everyone (human) has light inside them (human soul). This is covered in the Sophia myth which Destiny is strongly based on. Bungie has confirmed this with recent lore references to the "Demiurge".
The Nine were cis-Jovian (on the side of Jupiter closest to the sun) humans on the Yang Liwei. During the mixture of Light and Darkness that created the Awoken, it's stated that there wasn't enough light to repulse the Darkness. I believe "The Nine" were those on the ship who were touched solely by Darkness as there wasn't enough Light to convert them to Awoken.
According to the Sophia myth, the Demiurge is a demi-god of the materium (also referenced in Destiny lore) -- This appears to be The Traveler. There are several references to Guardians being "dead things". In the Sophia myth, when someone dies their soul (their spark of light) is (at some point) returned to the Pleroma. (i.e. Heaven). The Traveler prevents this which I believe offsets the cosmic balance that the Light & Darkness must maintain.
If you read the Saint-14 helm lore, it mentions a Guardian Savior. The Destiny story is written from this perspective. In the Sophia myth, there is a reference to the equiv. of Jesus. A Light-Bearer.
In the game, the icon for the "Rogue Light-Bearer" is a Serpent -- even Ikora states something to the effect of there being an enemy close by and not being able to speak openly. Lucifer actually means Light-Bearer -- who is represented by a Serpent in numerous religions. (although there is no named "Lucifer" in Gnosticism)
"I FORM THE LIGHT AND CREATE DARKNESS"
There's also correlations to the story of Prometheus from Greek Mythology to the Sophia myth. I believe the Traveler stole the light from the Darkness (which wasn't the darkness at the time, theft of the "light" caused it to go dark. This is referenced in Destiny concept art depending on the current interpretation). The Darkness is trying to restore balance although recent content seems to imply a dimensional balance.
In the Sophia myth, the Aeon Sophia has a "child" (without a male Aeon). This child separated from her body and was hideous. Sophia hid the child in a cloud of light to hide it's appearance from the other Aeons. The child had the head of a lion, body of a snake and burning radiant eyes. (Lion, Snake, Radiant Phoenix) . This child is known as the "Demiurge". The Demiurge "stole" the light from Sophia. Sophia is trying to correct this in the myth.
I believe the Traveler is creating these undead armies to prevent the "Light" being returned to it's original owner.
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I meant to reply to the original post and what I said does not pertain to anything in your post. RIP.
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ah, thank god. I was *so confused* and re-read my post several times. :P
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The Deep cannot die because it is a concept. The Darkness seems to be a cosmic force that values and emphasizes adaptation and absolute dominance. It emphasizes weeding out the weak and outlasting everything, and that is why conceptually, its powers are heat death and outright refusal of laws and dynamics, because they are restrictions. The darkness seems to emphasize evolution as well, embodying the strongest shape in nature, the triangle, and enforcing its philosophy of total dominance through the sword logic, the idea that the sharpest edge will always win. Interestingly, the Traveler's thoughts in dreams of alpha lupi described the its enemy as having a "thousand knives" which "pinned its godly flesh." This could be taken to mean the horde of dark triangular constructs. The light is the anti-thesis to the Darkness because, to sum it up in one statement, not everything has to die and life can co-exist and draw strength from one another. More recently, Mara Sov has been talking about the Bomb logic as a weapon that would beat the sword logic, because it is made by many components, people, and ideas. In the case of the Traveler and humanity, You have technology, the light, a warmind, and very slowly, whatever allies they make. Even the queen understands strength in numbers. It's not coincidence that she likes to keep Guardians around and weaponizes the light using the blind well. Here is a quote from the Darkness itself, when Oryx communed with it: [quote]This is how the world changes. One way meets a second way and they discharge their weapons, they exchange their words and markets, they contest and in doing so they petition each other for the right to go being something instead of nothing. This is the universe figuring out what it should be in the end. And it is majestic. Majestic. It is the only thing that can be true in and of itself. And it is what I am.[/quote] And: [quote]And if life is to live, if anything is to survive through the end of all things, it will live not through the smile, but by the sword, not in a soft place but in a hard hell, not in the rotting bog of an artificial paradise, but in the cold hard self-varifying truth of that one ultimate arbiter, the ultimate, the only judge, the power that is its own metric and its own source--existence at any cost.[/quote] So the darkness is literally and metaphorically, entropy and adaptation itself. It sees the universe as rotting and dying and because it draws power from the natural course of heat death, it believes it is majestic, should and WILL win, and because it will outlast heat death, it is uncontested, absolute, and the only power that will be left. So long as the idea of total conquest or aggressive survival exists, the darkness will never die. Remember how the Speaker said the Light was in all things? Well, one could argue that all of the wars and conflicts in humanity were the result of the darkness, because the light values working together for the good and survival of multiple species. It's really interesting to look at how the views of the light and darkness could play out on a smaller scale. From a scientific standpoint, the light and darkness both make sense. Life depends on diversity, but a species or being (or force in this case) forsees the inevitable heat death and makes changes and adapts to overcome them, is not wrong. If the Traveler never found humanity, and many years into the future when our sun began to die, the darkness came and offered us power to survive heat death and leave our system to find new homes, would we view it as evil? That's the story of the Hive, just replace the sun with living on an unstable gas giant. TL;DR: The Deep does not need to be revived. It is a concept with aspects just like the light. The light represents diversity and coexistence in life, while the darkness represents aggressive survival and adaptation that will outlast heat death to be an absolute power. Both work through different races and factions to carry out their ideas.
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<Is it heresy to believe there is a patron entity for these powers? Or that any of them can die? If the Darkness Entity is the direct opposite of the Traveler, then the Traveler is the patron entity of Light. The Light and Darkness is more than a concept with the right context. Especially when you factor in the Ascendant Plane.>
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You read the reddit
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To be fair, my wife has a degree in theology and pointed out a lot of this after I wouldn't shut up about the story. I didn't even see the reddit post until directed to it by a youtube video.
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I see, I think the theory is silly but anything is possible. The traveler seems more like geeky myth.
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Thank you too! So awesome